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Has anyone ever seen hate speech coming out of Hindu prayers?




Has anyone ever experienced hate speech at a prayer in a Hindu temple?

I can't recollect even one instance in my 40 years of life, where people praying were saying anything negative about anyone.

On the other hand, I keep seeing hate speech videos coming out of some places of worship. I just can't imagine what is going on in their heads. How can any logical person expect the almighty, that governs the world, to be accepting such prayers?

These days people are blaming certain activist who is offering a $1000 reward for evidence of hate speech at certain prayers.

I wouldn't care if someone offered a reward for evidence of hate speech from a Hindu temple. In fact, I don't think even a reward of $100 million dollars will be able to get anything.

Why do some religions care so much about people that don't follow their god???

"Organized Religion is a crutch for the weak-minded" - Jesse Ventura


 
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Post ID: 234505 04-04-17 23:15:54
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Never been to a temple but this terrorist seem to be inspired by religion and wants everyone to follow his God.

http://www.timesnow.tv/india/video/cow-vigilantes-back-in-action-kill-muslim-man-in-alwar/58755


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Post ID: 234527 05-04-17 17:24:47
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How can you call this guy Terrorist ? Did he blow up him self... did he killed innocent ?

You Muslim needs to understand the feeling of majority - you have been playing victim card all along and took advantage of it... now its time you better understand the reality and try to adjust with majority and respect their feelings... some time people lose patience and act stupid. which this guys did.

Yes, i condemn the act of the guys - they could have gone to the authority to complain ....

I noticed you always protest anything against minority but u keep mom when minority do wrong.


Time to change your mentality or more attack will happen then you guys will cry a river.

This is stupid act but no where near to terrorism

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Post ID: 234536 06-04-17 09:36:02
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Wow since when majority became always right.

Terrorism is terrorism physical mental any form of terrorism is terrorism.

Two wrong does not become one right. Muslim terrorism is bred in some mosques same way COW vigilante bred from some RSS shakas. Why its so hard to accept.

If not for the Congress rule with all the corruption, incompetency etc,etc. India would have the Hindu version of Pakistan by now . When will the people realize that one country one law and that law too should be based on fairness to everyone and should not be based on any religion.






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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl

How can you call this guy Terrorist ? Did he blow up him self... did he killed innocent ?

You Muslim needs to understand the feeling of majority - you have been playing victim card all along and took advantage of it... now its time you better understand the reality and try to adjust with majority and respect their feelings... some time people lose patience and act stupid. which this guys did.

Yes, i condemn the act of the guys - they could have gone to the authority to complain ....

I noticed you always protest anything against minority but u keep mom when minority do wrong.


Time to change your mentality or more attack will happen then you guys will cry a river.

This is stupid act but no where near to terrorism





 
Post ID: 234538 06-04-17 11:04:28
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Yes, Terrorism is terrorism there is no good/bad terrorist ..

Now this guys are stupid i completely agree.

But for god sake don't bring this stupid criminal act with terrorism.

OP posted topic - " hate speech coming out of Hindu prayers?" -
What is this topic about ?
TROLLING ?
Trying to prove that Hindu's are terrorist ? by posting few incidents ?

Where are you guys when there are numerous killing /riots/ blast happened almost everyday ?

Now you guys coming out with ALL GUNG-HO ???



only in India...a majority community that respects every other is treated like SHIT - Everyone wants respects for their culture / tradition/ believes... if you dont respect then some people lose control and act stupid.

again, i m not against punishing this stupid cow vigilantes , Cops must act and put them behind bar.

You called them criminal but not terrorist ( don't try to portrait few incident with majority)

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Post ID: 234539 06-04-17 12:20:06
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Hey Luckysaab,

Not a big fan of writing long paras, so I will write in points.

1. Alwar assault by gorakshaks The goraskshaks broke the law; it is shameful; a blot on the secular democracy of India. The criminals must be tried and punished. Period.

2. Never been to a temple? : You should go once. All are welcome there, whether you believe or not believe! Hinduism embraced atheists 2000+ years ago. Also no one had to go to the place of worship that were spewing hate speech. Wrong things come out eventually.

3. Condemning wrong takes guts I and other posters here have equivocally condemned the lynching, whereas you pussyfooted when I asked your views on Gazwa-e-hind and the two verses quoted by Tarek Fatah (see below for the link). The ignorance you feigned is called hypocrisy.


http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=37308

4. Terrorists vs. criminals Are you comparing gorakshaks to terrorists driven by values that are incompatible with free speech, gender equality, science and human rights? I hope you read the newspaper. What is the worst gorakshaks could do make India beef free? Are they bombing innocent people to get to heaven? Are they beheading non-believers? Are they seeking refuge in other countries and terrorizing the society? Victimhood is an easy card to play, introspection and facing the truth is hard.

ADMIN: THIS IS A VALID DISCUSSION AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE


 
Post ID: 234540 06-04-17 15:13:30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl

How can you call this guy Terrorist ? Did he blow up him self... did he killed innocent ?

You Muslim needs to understand the feeling of majority - you have been playing victim card all along and took advantage of it... now its time you better understand the reality and try to adjust with majority and respect their feelings... some time people lose patience and act stupid. which this guys did.

Yes, i condemn the act of the guys - they could have gone to the authority to complain ....

I noticed you always protest anything against minority but u keep mom when minority do wrong.


Time to change your mentality or more attack will happen then you guys will cry a river.

This is stupid act but no where near to terrorism


Try google for a terrorist definition. What do you mean by "did he killed innocent?"
Cool down! why are you bringing up Muslims in this- this thread is about the Hindu terrorists killing over cows. So when a Hindu guy kill because of his religion then he is acting stupid? What about if a Muslim guy does the same thing?
Nobody is protesting or defending anyone here ...just pointing out the double standard.

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Post ID: 234542 06-04-17 16:05:47
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Quote:
Originally posted by RaOne

Hey Luckysaab,

Not a big fan of writing long paras, so I will write in points.

1. Alwar assault by gorakshaks The goraskshaks broke the law; it is shameful; a blot on the secular democracy of India. The criminals must be tried and punished. Period.


Can we call him a Hindu terrorist?
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2. Never been to a temple? : You should go once. All are welcome there, whether you believe or not believe! Hinduism embraced atheists 2000+ years ago. Also no one had to go to the place of worship that were spewing hate speech. Wrong things come out eventually.


Unlike many in here I believe all religions are good and are primary civilizing force and for the most part instill absolute ethical standards. If you talk about violence historically people have used all ideologies to commit violence. Consider Communist Russia and China in recent times with tens of million of deaths. I'm not accusing Hindus, as a group, of violence so don't need to go to a Temple to prove anything. You might need to visit your local mosque and report back the hateful things you hear. Everyone is welcome.

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3. Condemning wrong takes guts I and other posters here have equivocally condemned the lynching, whereas you pussyfooted when I asked your views on Gazwa-e-hind and the two verses quoted by Tarek Fatah (see below for the link). The ignorance you feigned is called hypocrisy.


Where did you and others condemn the lynchings? I have said in the post you linked that "We all need to condemn all crimes". You seem to be interested in posting only the crimes committed by Muslims which are many but they are neither alone nor majority. You are welcome to show me when you posted crimes committed by a Hindu or Christian. Double standard anyone?

http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=37308
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4. Terrorists vs. criminals Are you comparing gorakshaks to terrorists driven by values that are incompatible with free speech, gender equality, science and human rights? I hope you read the newspaper. What is the worst gorakshaks could do make India beef free? Are they bombing innocent people to get to heaven? Are they beheading non-believers? Are they seeking refuge in other countries and terrorizing the society? Victimhood is an easy card to play, introspection and facing the truth is hard.

ADMIN: THIS IS A VALID DISCUSSION AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE


Same thing - why would you kill someone for something he doesn't believe in. You seem confused - you talk about free speech and human rights and then talk about making India beef free? India is not a theocracy.

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Post ID: 234544 06-04-17 18:25:19
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Not evryone believe in Mohandas Gandhi's "If someone slaps you on one side of your face, turn the other one to him"

Non-violence does not always mean cowardice.

You keep slaping and always expect people to stay calm ?... it dosent always work there r always few elements which will lose patience and act stupid.

Learn to respect others feeling then there is no problem...


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Post ID: 234545 06-04-17 19:28:50
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Luckysaab,

As usual your reply has many logical fallacies. So I am not going to waste too much time here; I will just point out a few of the fallacies below in bold.

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1. Alwar assault by gorakshaks The goraskshaks broke the law; it is shameful; a blot on the secular democracy of India. The criminals must be tried and punished. Period.

Can we call him a Hindu terrorist? Fallacy- False analogy or comparing apples and oranges



2. Never been to a temple? : You should go once. All are welcome there, whether you believe or not believe! Hinduism embraced atheists 2000+ years ago. Also no one had to go to the place of worship that were spewing hate speech. Wrong things come out eventually.

Unlike many in here I believe all religions are good and are primary civilizing force and for the most part instill absolute ethical standards. If you talk about violence historically people have used all ideologies to commit violence. Consider Communist Russia and China in recent times with tens of million of deaths. I'm not accusing Hindus, as a group, of violence so don't need to go to a Temple to prove anything. You might need to visit your local mosque and report back the hateful things you hear. Everyone is welcome. Fallacy -
Ignoratio Elenchi or missing the point



3. Condemning wrong takes guts I and other posters here have equivocally condemned the lynching, whereas you pussyfooted when I asked your views on Gazwa-e-hind and the two verses quoted by Tarek Fatah (see below for the link). The ignorance you feigned is called hypocrisy.

Where did you and others condemn the lynchings? I have said in the post you linked that "We all need to condemn all crimes". You seem to be interested in posting only the crimes committed by Muslims which are many but they are neither alone nor majority. You are welcome to show me when you posted crimes committed by a Hindu or Christian. Double standard anyone?

Fallacy- Avoiding question.
Don't hide behind "we all need to...". Answer the specific question!


http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=37308


4. Terrorists vs. criminals Are you comparing gorakshaks to terrorists driven by values that are incompatible with free speech, gender equality, science and human rights? I hope you read the newspaper. What is the worst gorakshaks could do make India beef free? Are they bombing innocent people to get to heaven? Are they beheading non-believers? Are they seeking refuge in other countries and terrorizing the society? Victimhood is an easy card to play, introspection and facing the truth is hard.


Same thing - why would you kill someone for something he doesn't believe in. You seem confused - you talk about free speech and human rights and then talk about making India beef free? India is not a theocracy. Fallacy- Straw man - you are putting words in my mouth. Did you miss the word "worst" in my reply?

Read my #1 and 4 one more time. I and other posters condemned the actions of gorakshaks



 
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