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goldeneye   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-05 20:02:39

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Orginally posted by Wasi

Prime Minister annouced that Canada's current immigration levels would rise 40 per cent within five years due to shortage of skilled people ...



Earlier people who used to work for $ 18 or so are now doing the same job for $ 12 or so, due to rise in "skilled" labor availability

Agencies which used to pay $10-11 have reduced to 9 and then to 8

More immigrants will mean the pay will hit minimum wage

Even more immigrants will mean there are more people to do the same job

Which means, more choice for employers and less working hours for desis.


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zCool   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-05 20:30:48

for those of the activist types...
May I suggest.. a protest with banner after well-placed calls to local TV and print media in the downtown or in front of CIC office..??
If you are sitting at home.. why not stand in front of a office after getting police permit and use the time ..
I bet immigrants protesting open immigration policy is bound to raise eyebrows and get some notice..
Likely slogan would be \"Do not import cheap labor\"
\"I am an immigrant without a job.. why do you need more??\"
\"Save Canada for Canadian residents\"
etc etc..:p



zCool   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-05 20:37:21

forgot to mention..
your stunt won't change anything.. but hell you will have some fun .. and who knows.. you might get famous enough to actually get a job!:)
At the minimum.. you will have done great service to your kids.. when they live in divided, violence-prone land without any future and closed border to the south .. you can say with pride.. when it was your time.. you tried hard to stem the tide..



sridharm   
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Location: mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-11-05 22:17:13

Nothing surprising. Immigration is one of the biggest scam in this country.Economy runs on cheating the people and running this economy. If there was no immigration this country would have died long back.
Economy runs on bringing people and then they need to stay in a place , buy groceries, buy a car all this adds to economy. All the poor immigrants money are spent to run this stupid country.
Driving license biggest fraud. Drivers learning certificate unheard of anywhere. If you pay money you get one.
car insurance another fraud and highest rates and cheating the public.
Everything is corrupt in this country and they talk of being not corrupt.

The Govt knows about this. They make money out of immigration.
The only way is to take out a rally of immigrants and start a revolution . Thats unlikely as the poor immigrants are tired and frustrated after landing here and dont have any strength and are lost.

If you can higlight these issues in American newspapers then they will wake up. Media coverage there will help.

If it rains in washington they will hold umbrellas here.

No wonder nobody cares about this country. Its unfortunate that its next to USA. A Disgrace to be called part of north America.




Dips   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-11-05 07:13:04

Quote:
Orginally posted by goldeneye

Quote:
Orginally posted by Wasi

Prime Minister annouced that Canada's current immigration levels would rise 40 per cent within five years due to shortage of skilled people ...



Earlier people who used to work for $ 18 or so are now doing the same job for $ 12 or so, due to rise in "skilled" labor availability

Agencies which used to pay $10-11 have reduced to 9 and then to 8

More immigrants will mean the pay will hit minimum wage

Even more immigrants will mean there are more people to do the same job

Which means, more choice for employers and less working hours for desis.




Isn't that good for canadian economy as a whole. Canadian goods and services will be more competitive than. Its the canadian economy that should be doing well.

Dips



Dips   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-11-05 07:14:05

Quote:
Orginally posted by zCool

for those of the activist types...
May I suggest.. a protest with banner after well-placed calls to local TV and print media in the downtown or in front of CIC office..??
If you are sitting at home.. why not stand in front of a office after getting police permit and use the time ..
I bet immigrants protesting open immigration policy is bound to raise eyebrows and get some notice..
Likely slogan would be \"Do not import cheap labor\"
\"I am an immigrant without a job.. why do you need more??\"
\"Save Canada for Canadian residents\"
etc etc..:p



The best way to Protest is to get Nude and protest. Atleast media in india will print those stuff.

Dips



transmogrifier   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 408
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-11-05 10:17:00

Please to be reading editorial here from National Post:

Please also noting that editor tolding that $6,000 per head for 190,000 peoples is more than $11 billion. But it is actually being $1.14 billion.
Accidental typo yaan deliberate to make point more sensational?
With typo like that it is making one to wondering if other figures of $6,000 yaan 190,000 are correct.
Then peoples on this forum for some reason thinking western media responsible?!

Also for all deadly English types here like BL, Chandresh, Rajan Desai, Puru, mercury6 and haan, who can forgetting the man with the goods, DesiTiger, can you please helping us all in saying if 'admitees' ( somewhere in the article)is English word? I am looking in internet and in hard copy dictionaries, Webster aur Oxford, and not finding. You are thinking it is editor's neoligism? Apun also asking people in office and they also shaking head.

http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/comment/story.html?id=e2f44897-9c6f-4d38-8d42-2e85f0c052e6

National Post


Thursday, November 03, 2005


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We are always suspicious of politicians who promise to raise immigration levels on the eve of an election. As likely as not, their motivation is vote-grabbing in ethnic communities, despite such lofty official objectives as bolstering the economy. But Joe Volpe, the Immigration Minister, might just be on to something this time.

Mr. Volpe is behind a series of reforms he says will re-emphasize the link between marketable skills and admission to the country. Applicants with skills that are in short supply here -- professional or not -- will have a much easier time. However, their family members with little chance of finding work will find it tougher to join them, at least for the first few years. The trick now will be sticking by this proposal. A half dozen years ago, when Ottawa last proposed amending immigration criteria in favour of employability, the idea was sunk by the strenuous objections of immigration lawyers and ethno-politicians, two important Liberal constituencies.

Action is essential, however. Our current system is unsustainable. Despite claims by Ottawa that two-thirds of immigrants are economically self-sufficient, really only about one quarter are, once ageing parents, minor children and dependent relatives are taken into account. These dependents qualify immediately for social programs. At a cost of $6,000 per capita, the 190,000 dependent immigrants admitted every year consume over $11-billion annually.

Even the true "economic class" immigrants we are accepting often possess few skills demanded in the marketplace. Among economic-class immigrants age 25 to 44, 87% have university degrees, compared to 25% of all Canadians in that age group. That would be impressive if a degree were a useful surrogate for employability. But that has not turned out to be the case. Six months after their arrival, economic-class immigrants have employment levels 20 percentage points below the national average, including those Canadians with no degrees. After two years, they are still nearly 10 points back.

Some of this unemployment -- and some of the underemployment, as well -- is the fault of professional associations that are reluctant to recognize foreign credentials, especially for lawyers, doctors, dentists and engineers. But an even greater cause is the mismatch between successful admitees and the job market. Canada has a crying need for more electricians, pipe fitters, truck drivers and carpenters. Instead we are admitting sociologists, political scientists and literature majors.

To correct this, Mr. Volpe wisely proposes opening up our immigration stream to skilled non-professionals. And to reduce the threat that the skills of those admitted today will no longer be required two or three years from now, the Minister is proposing an intermediate step between arrival and landed immigrant status. He wants many of the 50,000 extra newcomers to be first permitted into Canada on temporary work visas. After a certain period -- likely 24 to 36 months -- if they have not offended Canadian law, they can apply to stay, even to bring their family over to join them. During the initial two or three years, if demand for their skills dries up or they commit a crime, they could be removed from the country much more easily than now.

Mr. Volpe is too obsessed with numbers. Canada's current immigration levels -- about 250,000 a year -- are already the highest per capita in the industrialized world. Ottawa wants to raise that to 300,000 five years from now. Yet it does not even know whether it can attract enough workers with the desired skills to meet this new quota. There is a danger the 300,000 figure will become indelible, too. Once set, the immigration department will feel obliged to meet it each year, even if too few employable workers can be found. It would be smarter to change our immigration criteria first and increase Canada's overseas recruitment network (another Volpe pledge) before ramping up our intake.

Like the aborted reforms of the 1990s, these ideas will face stiff opposition. If Mr. Volpe is serious about making meaningful reform, though -- and not just keen to increase Liberals votes -- he will ride out the criticism and implement these much-needed changes.

© National Post 2005




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