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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 16:17:35

The Link lies here - > http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/04look1.htm (Rediffmail)
Chennai-based devotee has offered two diamond ear coverings (karunapathras) worth Rs 1.1 crore to the Sri Venkateswara Temple at Tirupati.
The devotee, who preferred not to disclose his identity, handed over the jewels to Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam's Executive Officer A P V N Sarma on Thursday night.
The jewels will adorn the lord during Brahmotsavam in August.
The same devotee had offered 'Lakshmi Sahasranamakasula Haram' in gold worth Rs 37 lakh to Sri Padmavathi Temple at Tiruchanoor on Thursday.

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While in no way do i want to interfere in this devotee's wish, would it have served a better purpose if this money had been given to the upliftment of the poor in India? Wouldn't Lord Venkateshwara have preferred it this way?
TK A
Afternote :
Loyola college and MCC are christian colleges but they accept everyone based on merit. Sankaracharya studied in Loyola colege and soe he can tell the exact story. The reasonwhy many christians are there is b'cos in Tamil nadu , majority of christians do well in their exams an d get good marks. Since Christian colleges are some of the best educational institutions, you find them more there. Everyone pays the same fees and hence there is no concession if you are a Hindu, sikh or an athist.
Since i am from Trichy, i can list the following organisations in Trichy :
Campion higher sec. school- Boys only (Catholic) - 90 % of students are Hindu's
Vestry (protestant) - 98 % of students are Hindu's
St. Joseph's convent (for girls only)- 90% are hindu;s
Bishop Heber college - > 80-90% of students are Hindu's
St. Joseph's college -> 80-85% are Hindu's.
I have seen that the faculty/ teachers are predominantly Christian. This has nothing to do with prejudice. When these teachers were recruited in the 1950's , there were a few Hindu teachers/ facuulty only and hence the reason for the low Hindu faculty population. I have seen many christian boys / girls being admitted to these schools/ colleges by recommendation by the christian faculty/ teachers. This has to do w/ friendship/ corruption etc.. and nothing else.
Hope Desi Raja gets more clear.


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Desi Raja   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 17:25:47

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

The Link lies here - > http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/04look1.htm (Rediffmail)
Chennai-based devotee has offered two diamond ear coverings (karunapathras) worth Rs 1.1 crore to the Sri Venkateswara Temple at Tirupati.
The devotee, who preferred not to disclose his identity, handed over the jewels to Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam's Executive Officer A P V N Sarma on Thursday night.
The jewels will adorn the lord during Brahmotsavam in August.
The same devotee had offered 'Lakshmi Sahasranamakasula Haram' in gold worth Rs 37 lakh to Sri Padmavathi Temple at Tiruchanoor on Thursday.

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While in no way do i want to interfere in this devotee's wish, would it have served a better purpose if this money had been given to the upliftment of the poor in India? Wouldn't Lord Venkateshwara have preferred it this way?

TK A




It could have if you feel giving free food, giving education thru the University or creating jobs is not a nicer way to help people..

Why not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????

Personally giving money to individuals doesnt help them but institutionalising charity helps people...

My thoughts...



jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 18:00:50

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi Raja

Why not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????




There! Another one equating the vatican with the whole of christianity. Its like saying all Indians wear turbans and beards!!!!

The vatican is NOT in control of the whole of christianity. Most of the aggressive conversions are done by the newer evangalical sects who do NOT recognise the authority of the pope, forget being funded by the vatican!

The catholics only form approx 1.8 % of the approx 2.3% christians in India and yet cater to 20% if the primary education there. I'm not sure what you mean by christian exclusive colleges. I dont think there are any and if they are funded by the vatican, it would be more sensible for them to be catholic ONLY. I dont think there is any such college in India, can you post links to back your claim? Catholics and Protestants(and other sects) have fundamental theological differences including, but not limited to, the authority of the Pope.

Some more info for those in the dark. George Bush is NOT catholic. Most Americans are protestant not catholic and DO NOT see the need for a pope. Infact JFK was the first and ONLY catholic president of the US.

'The first and only Roman Catholic to serve as president, Kennedy's faith was previously seen by some to be a liability that would hurt his chances during his run for the White House. Critics argued that a Kennedy presidency would be subservient to the wishes of the Vatican. '

NOTE: this is not a defence of the vaticans assets...which about to 5-15 billion $ OR its activities. Just making it clear to desis that christianity and vatican/pope CANNOT be used interchangeably as many desis tend to do.

Like I said its being as ignorant as someone who asked me(when I first came to Montreal) why I do not wear a turban and beard inspite of being from India.


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morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 18:18:03

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi Raja

Why not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????




There! Another one equating the vatican with the whole of christianity. Its like saying all Indians wear turbans and beards!!!!

The vatican is NOT in control of the whole of christianity. Most of the aggressive conversions are done by the newer evangalical sects who do NOT recognise the authority of the pope, forget being funded by the vatican!

The catholics only form approx 1.8 % of the approx 2.3% christians in India and yet cater to 20% if the primary education there. I'm not sure what you mean by christian exclusive colleges. I dont think there are any and if they are funded by the vatican, it would be more sensible for them to be catholic ONLY. I dont think there is any such college in India, can you post links to back your claim? Catholics and Protestants(and other sects) have fundamental theological differences including, but not limited to, the authority of the Pope.

Some more info for those in the dark. George Bush is NOT catholic. Most Americans are protestant not catholic and DO NOT see the need for a pope. Infact JFK was the first and ONLY catholic president of the US.

'The first and only Roman Catholic to serve as president, Kennedy's faith was previously seen by some to be a liability that would hurt his chances during his run for the White House. Critics argued that a Kennedy presidency would be subservient to the wishes of the Vatican. '

NOTE: this is not a defence of the vaticans assets...which about to 5-15 billion $ OR its activities. Just making it clear to desis that christianity and vatican/pope CANNOT be used interchangeably as many desis tend to do.

Like I said its being as ignorant as someone who asked me(when I first came to Montreal) why I do not wear a turban and beard inspite of being from India.



Maybe he just read "angels and demons" or "davinci code"

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Desi Raja   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 18:50:23

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi Raja

Why not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????




There! Another one equating the vatican with the whole of christianity. Its like saying all Indians wear turbans and beards!!!!

The vatican is NOT in control of the whole of christianity. Most of the aggressive conversions are done by the newer evangalical sects who do NOT recognise the authority of the pope, forget being funded by the vatican!

The catholics only form approx 1.8 % of the approx 2.3% christians in India and yet cater to 20% if the primary education there. I'm not sure what you mean by christian exclusive colleges. I dont think there are any and if they are funded by the vatican, it would be more sensible for them to be catholic ONLY. I dont think there is any such college in India, can you post links to back your claim? Catholics and Protestants(and other sects) have fundamental theological differences including, but not limited to, the authority of the Pope.

Some more info for those in the dark. George Bush is NOT catholic. Most Americans are protestant not catholic and DO NOT see the need for a pope. Infact JFK was the first and ONLY catholic president of the US.

'The first and only Roman Catholic to serve as president, Kennedy's faith was previously seen by some to be a liability that would hurt his chances during his run for the White House. Critics argued that a Kennedy presidency would be subservient to the wishes of the Vatican. '

NOTE: this is not a defence of the vaticans assets...which about to 5-15 billion $ OR its activities. Just making it clear to desis that christianity and vatican/pope CANNOT be used interchangeably as many desis tend to do.

Like I said its being as ignorant as someone who asked me(when I first came to Montreal) why I do not wear a turban and beard inspite of being from India.



Nice stats but not relevant !!!!!!



Desi Raja   
Member since: Sep 05
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 18:56:29

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi Raja

Why not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????




There! Another one equating the vatican with the whole of christianity. Its like saying all Indians wear turbans and beards!!!!

The vatican is NOT in control of the whole of christianity. Most of the aggressive conversions are done by the newer evangalical sects who do NOT recognise the authority of the pope, forget being funded by the vatican!

The catholics only form approx 1.8 % of the approx 2.3% christians in India and yet cater to 20% if the primary education there. I'm not sure what you mean by christian exclusive colleges. I dont think there are any and if they are funded by the vatican, it would be more sensible for them to be catholic ONLY. I dont think there is any such college in India, can you post links to back your claim? Catholics and Protestants(and other sects) have fundamental theological differences including, but not limited to, the authority of the Pope.

Some more info for those in the dark. George Bush is NOT catholic. Most Americans are protestant not catholic and DO NOT see the need for a pope. Infact JFK was the first and ONLY catholic president of the US.

'The first and only Roman Catholic to serve as president, Kennedy's faith was previously seen by some to be a liability that would hurt his chances during his run for the White House. Critics argued that a Kennedy presidency would be subservient to the wishes of the Vatican. '

NOTE: this is not a defence of the vaticans assets...which about to 5-15 billion $ OR its activities. Just making it clear to desis that christianity and vatican/pope CANNOT be used interchangeably as many desis tend to do.

Like I said its being as ignorant as someone who asked me(when I first came to Montreal) why I do not wear a turban and beard inspite of being from India.



Easiest name coming to my mind.. Loyola College , Madras Christian college and The New College for muslims - all in Chennai.. 99% of the seats are for christians and Muslims and only a few seats for other religions..



crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-06 19:26:03

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi Raja
Easiest name coming to my mind.. Loyola College ,
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99% of the seats are for christians and Muslims and only a few seats for other religions..



Is that (the 99% figure) an informed comment or just something you pulled out of thin air?

Looking at the alumni list for Loyola College at this http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6166/loyola.html, from the alumni names, I don't see any evidence of 99% students being 'Christian' (Jake has already explained the difference between Christian and Catholic).



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