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Smiley   
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Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 20:29:40

I have a question . I was filling my wife's citizenship form and was wondering how do I calculate days for absences

1) What is the same day trip to US . Does it count to 0 or 1 days out and does it have to be mentioned in the absences column.

2) If My wife left on 10th evening to US and came back to canada with me back on 11th afternoon. Is it 0 or 1 day out . Does this have to be mentioned on absences.

Thanks and have a great day


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Pramod Chopra   
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Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 20:47:49

If the overnight stay was in US then it is 1 day absence and you should count the same as such.



Pramod Chopra


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chandresh   
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Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 21:39:16

Quote:
Orginally posted by Pramod Chopra

If the overnight stay was in US then it is 1 day absence and you should count the same as such.



Pramod Chopra



Pramodji,

Are you positive about this? I would have thought otherwise. In my opinion, one is in Canada on both the days, therefore there should be no absence. But then, sometimes rules are not based on logic.

Going by that rule, if I left Canada say at 11pm to drop my friend in Buffalo and returned at 1 am next day, it would be counted as absence from Canada, isn't it?

Chandresh


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Smiley   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 21:57:11

As per my understanding, I thought any day that you are in Canada is considered as being in Canada so If I left on 10 and came back on 11th , it should be still counted as zero days outside .

Again , I could be wrong


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Pramod Chopra   
Member since: Sep 03
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Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 22:06:58

Quote:
Orginally posted by chandresh

Quote:
Orginally posted by Pramod Chopra

If the overnight stay was in US then it is 1 day absence and you should count the same as such.



Pramod Chopra



Pramodji,

Are you positive about this? I would have thought otherwise. In my opinion, one is in Canada on both the days, therefore there should be no absence. But then, sometimes rules are not based on logic.

Going by that rule, if I left Canada say at 11pm to drop my friend in Buffalo and returned at 1 am next day, it would be counted as absence from Canada, isn't it?

Chandresh



Chandresh Bhai,

You would have made a much better lawyer as your point does have weightage.

I just wrote what I was told when I asked this question to their call centre as I had also visited US on number of ocassions for visiting Hare Krishna Temple in West Virginia and stayed there overnight and came back the next day and I was told to treat those visits as 1 day absence as it was an overnight stay in US. However, in your example there is no overningt stay and you do not have to treat this as absence from Canada or may be not even mention this on the application.

On second thoughts, what problem 1 day absence would cause. One can simply apply 1 day late.

Regards,



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Smiley   
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Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-05 22:45:24


I go to meetings on Monday morning to my client in WA state so sometimes I leave on sunday evenings and stay in the hotel overnight in WA state to be there at 8 am on Monday mornings and then I am back by Monday evenings .

If I count this as 1 day absence , I will have to look for a lot of delay in applying when I am eligible to apply ..

Any thoughts ??


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Pramod Chopra   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 1284
Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-05 00:11:43

Quote:
Orginally posted by Smiley


I go to meetings on Monday morning to my client in WA state so sometimes I leave on sunday evenings and stay in the hotel overnight in WA state to be there at 8 am on Monday mornings and then I am back by Monday evenings .

If I count this as 1 day absence , I will have to look for a lot of delay in applying when I am eligible to apply ..

Any thoughts ??



I believe you can do either of 2 things:

1. Call the CIC call centre and seek clarification as may be in your case it would not be counted as absence and you may not have to show these on your application at all or

2. Just do not mention any thing on your application about these trips(as these may not necessarily be absence in strict sense) and show all other absences from Canada including vacation trips to USA.

Good Luck


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