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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-12-06 01:35:17

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Originally posted by regar

I have been through all this as a professional and i am aware of the conditions which should be given priority



Sometimes people go into the emergency they undergo tests and then come again to wait in the waiting area and are called in again depending on the results of their tests. Then there is also the question of the available specialist...e.g: the orthopedist could be readily available to see the guy with the limp but the cardiologist/Pulmonologist could be too tied up to treat another patient in the waiting room who seemed to require more attention than our limping guy. However, the limping guy goes in first. Tough.
I'm sure you factored this into your observations too. I'll take your word for it.

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Originally posted by regar

I ...but i guess the real problem which we discovered later was when we saw the doc who said there was no mention of loss of conciousness in medical history taken by the nurse....



I guess we are talking about one inefficient nurse. I admit it must have been quite frustrating to learn of this.

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Originally posted by regar
which was the main reason for us to visit the emergency and had that been there i am sure that she would have been seen a little earlier


You say that you are sure you would have been seen earlier...so at this point you are qute confident of the system? I'm assuming that one nurse messed it up during the visit then.

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Originally posted by regar
...but the fact remains as a witness to movement of patients there i knew which ones were real emergency and needed to jump queue for obvious reasons but some jumped for reasons other than emergency actually i am planing to take it up further with authorities after the holidays are over and drive the point home that all those sitting in the waiting room are not lay people there are thousands of health professionals and some may be there if they are unfortunate and will witness the system..leave alone the rudeness with which the nurses wee addressing some of the people who questioned her regarding long waits ..if this was a case else where the nurse wouldnt be deaking with emergency from next day on.



I do hope you pursue it as planned but the last sentence leaves me confused...is it just one nurse or 'nurses' who were being rude and indulging in non-professional behaviour such as allowing 'known' people in. It must have been a coincidence that so many 'known' people arrive at the same time in a hospital emergency and are let in by so many 'known' nurses. I'm taking your word that so many 'known' people were given preference...you must know all parties involved pretty well to know that all these people know each other. Maybe you meant that you figured out one patient knew a nurse and was let in. Or maybe there was a big accident in your neighborhood and all these people rushed to the hospital emergency at the right time to be let in by the nurse/nurses they were already acquainted with.

I'm not sure your problem is with one nurse/nurses or with the system but do keep us posted as to if the errant nurse/nurses are punished.


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regar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-12-06 22:12:09

There was this triage nurse and 2-3 known persons were let in ..on second thought they may be regulars at emergency...not personal friends but surely they knew each other well as i could see from the way they greeted and spoke to each other.
My observation was only meant to highlight the fact that well trained paramedics ,ambulance etc but not enough human resource (doctors ) to match that had that been the case it would be great



jake3d   
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-12-06 23:27:14

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Originally posted by regar
My observation was only meant to highlight the fact that well trained paramedics ,ambulance etc but not enough human resource (doctors ) to match that had that been the case it would be great



I agree with you there.


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Maharaj   
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Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-07 13:18:23

It will be very interesting to know other side of a coin and to get a View from a Doctor or Nurse. I wonder if we have any here.

We are Customers and ofcourse we complain - no mater what.

Everybody knows System is at Fault but again what is being done to improve it?

I know one Doctor Personally. Husband and Wife both Working at 'Sick Children'. They both were MD, done from UK with more than 10 yrs of Experience. They were on kind of a Student Visa (doing their Residency here). Ofcourse earning $$$. They left Canada coulpe years back. While working here they were designated Doctors (& not Students). If they get PR, they'll have to go back to school and start almost from scratch.

I was amazed and could not believe that. A Doctor can practice with Temporary Visa but not with PR. It could be that Hospital is using that Hole in System. But its Bizzare, System should change. Now they Left.



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jake3d   
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-07 14:46:52

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Originally posted by Maharaj

A Doctor can practice with Temporary Visa but not with PR.



Whats the sense in that? Any logical explanation for this rule? If true...its a complete waste of much needed resources.


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Maharaj   
Member since: Oct 02
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Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-07 15:36:54

Exactly, no sense in that. It was True.

Government was looking to Mend it, but I dont know if they did or no ... and to what extent. I have no direct source of information.




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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-07 16:05:25

On a related note. I had read in the toronto star that Libya sends its medical professionals to Toronto for residency and that 95% of them donot return back to serve their country. It has to be assumed here taht maybe most of them donot continue to live in Ontario as they canot practice after the expiry of their residency. This the CMA head said was a loophole of the health act (or a likewise act)and which would have better served the community if the act was rewritten to take Canadians instead.
Hospitals can trim their infrastructure to sponser more education of Doctors. Also expensive lab tests for trival reasons should be eliminated for proper utilization of funds.
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