Baby delivery - India or Canada?


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dudewheresmycar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-08 10:22:32

Hi Diyaa,

By virtue of being born to indian parents the child will always have option of gaining indian citizenship..

I think gaining canadian citizenship by birth is a very big advantage for the child in question..

Lets do the math..

Indian population is 1 billion todays. 20 years from now it will probably be close to 2 billion.. Does our country have the resources to manage such a huge population , what are the opportunities the child will have then..

Canada is resource rich and has low population.. this means there will always be opporutnines for educated people here .. no matter where globalization outsourcing etc is going.. all this is a controlled farce..

So the best thing for the parents to do is sacrifice some confort for the future of the child in canada, that way the child can come back to canada anytime..

As much as people want to compain about bad healthcare here.. if there is a emegency the quality of healthcare is much better than india..

In my opinion this is a no brainer deliver the kid in Canada..


The dude..


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Originally posted by diyaa

True, it does not cost 1.5 lakhs for delivery in India. It is usually around 40k even in good hospitals like apollo/wockhardt and even that amount is covered by insurance provided by her husband's company. So that way, baby delivery is free in India also.

Well, I'm not sure to what extent Canadian citizenship is going to help to the baby because the couple don't have any plans of returning to canada once the project is over. It 'might' help the baby after it grows (may be 20 years from now) but lot of things would have changed by then.




viggy   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-08 10:47:48

I concur with Dude, just a small point though...

"By virtue of being born to indian parents the child will always have option of gaining indian citizenship.. " This is no longer straight forward. For babies born after 2004 Jan, unless the baby is registered as Indian citizen within 1 year of birth, the baby will need to apply for Indian citizenship just like any one else - ofcourse it could be easier due Indian origin. Essentially apply for OCI, then live 1 year in India and then apply for citizenship.



mynameisraj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-08 23:59:20

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Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Though the healthcare system in Canada is really bad (when compared to private care in India),



Sir you should really refrain from making such neanderthal remarks. Your comment was besides the point and absolutely adds no value to the topic. Every system has its pitfalls but one cannot generalize it to such a degree as to paint a negative picture so far from truth.

Diyaa --
By and large, the healthcare system here is fantastic. I speak from personal experience being a Father of a one year old daughter. But I don't think you were asking about that.

As many have cited there are a certain advantages to giving birth to the child here. How far is your friend into her pregnancy? After a certain stage, I am sure you are advised against flying so they really may not have an option at all?



tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-09-08 07:27:29

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Originally posted by mynameisraj

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Though the healthcare system in Canada is really bad (when compared to private care in India),



Sir you should really refrain from making such neanderthal remarks. Your comment was besides the point and absolutely adds no value to the topic. Every system has its pitfalls but one cannot generalize it to such a degree as to paint a negative picture so far from truth.

?


Sir,
This is based on my personal experience and the experience of a lot of people that I know. Most of the doctor's are highly inefficient and the system is breaking up. The only disadvantage in India is that you have to pay for services but when you have health insurance in India ,cost should not matter. I can go on and on about the health care system of Canada but that would be off topic.
Peace


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dudewheresmycar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-09-08 10:38:26


Here people complain about everything.. In india we are used to the chalta hai attitude.

For minor issues health care in india is better because we get access to doctor right away..

For major issues u dont know which doctor to trust and what would be the level of hygine/after care.. This is where Canadian heathcare is far better in my opinion even though u have to wait ur turn...

From personal exp i think Canada has a very good health care system..


Child birth is a major event so i think in Canada the person will get very good care..

Every person has his opinion... but what needs to be considered is that the person who is complaining (TK) is still residing in canada, if it were so bad as he is suggesting i doubt he would be here..




Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Quote:
Originally posted by mynameisraj

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Though the healthcare system in Canada is really bad (when compared to private care in India),



Sir you should really refrain from making such neanderthal remarks. Your comment was besides the point and absolutely adds no value to the topic. Every system has its pitfalls but one cannot generalize it to such a degree as to paint a negative picture so far from truth.

?


Sir,
This is based on my personal experience and the experience of a lot of people that I know. Most of the doctor's are highly inefficient and the system is breaking up. The only disadvantage in India is that you have to pay for services but when you have health insurance in India ,cost should not matter. I can go on and on about the health care system of Canada but that would be off topic.
Peace



viggy   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-09-08 11:07:42

May be if you live in India and experience the health care in India, then you can see the other side of the coin.

To the topic in hand (which being delivery), my personal experience was like this: We immigrated when my wife was 7 months pregnant. Before that, when in India, during the 2nd month of pregnancy, we visited one of the reputed 'super speciality' clinic in India focussing mainly on pregnancy and delivery. It came highly recommended by collegues and the main doc there has published books and papers on delivery etc. So no question on knowledge. Well, during the first visit, waited for 1 hr after appointment time in the grand clinic, then got reviewed by a mid wife, then by a junior gyno, then by the chief doc - everything so impressive taking 4-5 hrs. We felt some over doing, but things were okay so far, but then towards the end, the doc says 'we need to talk about C Section, but there is long time, we will do that later' !! This was during 2nd month of pregnancy and coming from a 'super specialist' doc!! After enquiring with collegues who recommended the doc, I found that most of them had C-Sec deliveries! Anyways, we had normal delivery here.

Many, if not most, clinics are into milking you for max money via C Section or all kinds of tests -needed or not.

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Sir,
This is based on my personal experience and the experience of a lot of people that I know. Most of the doctor's are highly inefficient and the system is breaking up. The only disadvantage in India is that you have to pay for services but when you have health insurance in India ,cost should not matter. I can go on and on about the health care system of Canada but that would be off topic.
Peace



dudewheresmycar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-09-08 15:49:58


My point exactly.. everything is a business in india.. Drs will stoop to any level for making money..

Even the US is looking at adopting Canadian Health care system..






Quote:
Originally posted by viggy

May be if you live in India and experience the health care in India, then you can see the other side of the coin.

To the topic in hand (which being delivery), my personal experience was like this: We immigrated when my wife was 7 months pregnant. Before that, when in India, during the 2nd month of pregnancy, we visited one of the reputed 'super speciality' clinic in India focussing mainly on pregnancy and delivery. It came highly recommended by collegues and the main doc there has published books and papers on delivery etc. So no question on knowledge. Well, during the first visit, waited for 1 hr after appointment time in the grand clinic, then got reviewed by a mid wife, then by a junior gyno, then by the chief doc - everything so impressive taking 4-5 hrs. We felt some over doing, but things were okay so far, but then towards the end, the doc says 'we need to talk about C Section, but there is long time, we will do that later' !! This was during 2nd month of pregnancy and coming from a 'super specialist' doc!! After enquiring with collegues who recommended the doc, I found that most of them had C-Sec deliveries! Anyways, we had normal delivery here.

Many, if not most, clinics are into milking you for max money via C Section or all kinds of tests -needed or not.

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Sir,
This is based on my personal experience and the experience of a lot of people that I know. Most of the doctor's are highly inefficient and the system is breaking up. The only disadvantage in India is that you have to pay for services but when you have health insurance in India ,cost should not matter. I can go on and on about the health care system of Canada but that would be off topic.
Peace






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