US CPA after Canadian CGA


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Carna   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-07-09 16:32:07

I am an Canadian CGA, Please help me to chose a state to take CPA exam. Most states will not accept courses taken from CGA association

Thanks in advance



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-08-09 19:54:26

I observe that this is your first posting. Welcome to CD.

I do not understand why would you pursue CPA after CGA. CPA degree is useless in Canada. Atleast, that has been my experience.

If you are planning to settle in USA, then it would be best to take exam from the state where you wish to settle.

There were 2 states namely Delaware and Michigan which recognized Indian CA and allowed us to write exam. You can contact Becker training classes people and probably they will help you free of charge.



akeel_cpa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-09 09:39:46

I don't agree that CPA is useless in Canada, a few years ago CGA's could write from Vermont not sure what their current requirement is you can contact beckers they can guide you further on this.



jonav   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-09 10:47:01

I also don't agree that CPA is useless in Canada, don't generalize and discourage people.

To OP, my husband is a CPA and works for Canadian company, I personally think what matters is your skills, the degree can be from anywhere. Conversely you can have 20 degrees behind your name but if skills are not there, nothing is gonna happen. The company sponsored our PR fully knowing that he has no Canadian degrees.


Jona



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-09 20:59:43

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Originally posted by jonav

I also don't agree that CPA is useless in Canada, don't generalize and discourage people.

To OP, my husband is a CPA and works for Canadian company, I personally think what matters is your skills, the degree can be from anywhere. Conversely you can have 20 degrees behind your name but if skills are not there, nothing is gonna happen. The company sponsored our PR fully knowing that he has no Canadian degrees.


Jona



Hi Jona,

I am not trying to discourage people here. I just thought of sharing my opinion. I am sure Cds are mature enough to take their own decisions. My opinion was based on my personal experiences. Since he already has CGA designation, going after CPA may not be nuch help. You have rightly pointed out that what matters is skills and presentation. Let me elaborate a little. While CGA is recognized qualification for accounting job across all Government organizations i.e. Fedral, Provincial and Local, CPA degree is not even acknowledged. Government sector is one of the largest employer in Canada. CPA might be useful if the USA parent company wants someone with CPA for their branch in Canada. I hope this clarifies my views.



jonav   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-09 09:14:33

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by jonav

I also don't agree that CPA is useless in Canada, don't generalize and discourage people.

To OP, my husband is a CPA and works for Canadian company, I personally think what matters is your skills, the degree can be from anywhere. Conversely you can have 20 degrees behind your name but if skills are not there, nothing is gonna happen. The company sponsored our PR fully knowing that he has no Canadian degrees.


Jona



Hi Jona,

I am not trying to discourage people here. I just thought of sharing my opinion. I am sure Cds are mature enough to take their own decisions. My opinion was based on my personal experiences. Since he already has CGA designation, going after CPA may not be nuch help. You have rightly pointed out that what matters is skills and presentation. Let me elaborate a little. While CGA is recognized qualification for accounting job across all Government organizations i.e. Fedral, Provincial and Local, CPA degree is not even acknowledged. Government sector is one of the largest employer in Canada. CPA might be useful if the USA parent company wants someone with CPA for their branch in Canada. I hope this clarifies my views.



Thanks for this; I wasn't aware of govt. jobs in Canada. I'm sure to encourage their own education system they'll ask for Canadian education background especially govt. Sorry if you felt bad for my earlier post, in our social circle and beyond that I know a lot of people with Indian CA, or only US CPA, or CGA's all working for private sector but they got jobs because they had experience and skills of the industry and that's what I wanted to emphasize to OP (which you also explained well).

Thanks again...............Jona



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-09 20:10:26

Quote:
Originally posted by jonav

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by jonav

I also don't agree that CPA is useless in Canada, don't generalize and discourage people.

To OP, my husband is a CPA and works for Canadian company, I personally think what matters is your skills, the degree can be from anywhere. Conversely you can have 20 degrees behind your name but if skills are not there, nothing is gonna happen. The company sponsored our PR fully knowing that he has no Canadian degrees.


Jona



Hi Jona,

I am not trying to discourage people here. I just thought of sharing my opinion. I am sure Cds are mature enough to take their own decisions. My opinion was based on my personal experiences. Since he already has CGA designation, going after CPA may not be nuch help. You have rightly pointed out that what matters is skills and presentation. Let me elaborate a little. While CGA is recognized qualification for accounting job across all Government organizations i.e. Fedral, Provincial and Local, CPA degree is not even acknowledged. Government sector is one of the largest employer in Canada. CPA might be useful if the USA parent company wants someone with CPA for their branch in Canada. I hope this clarifies my views.



Thanks for this; I wasn't aware of govt. jobs in Canada. I'm sure to encourage their own education system they'll ask for Canadian education background especially govt. Sorry if you felt bad for my earlier post, in our social circle and beyond that I know a lot of people with Indian CA, or only US CPA, or CGA's all working for private sector but they got jobs because they had experience and skills of the industry and that's what I wanted to emphasize to OP (which you also explained well).

Thanks again...............Jona




Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) has quite a few openings right now.

Again based on personal experience, I would like to point out that CMA degree carries more weight. This probably is due to the reason "Management" as part of the designation. Most managers in CRA (federal job) and MBS (Provincial) are CMA and hence if one is CMA, he can walk in to Government job more easily than CGA as both these places, chances are that manager will be CMA. As between CMA and CGA, CGA is real tough and provides much more technical and detailed knowledge while CMA qualification is a big joke. You write one multiple choice exam and one English language test and thenafter there are no exams (This is as per my information. I might be wrong please check the facts) All CMA do is to participate in group projects and PRESENTATION skills. However, one has to learn very fast (I did not) that what carries importance is finessee and presentation skills.

I believe most CDs do not pursue CMA as it is much costlier. However, the option of pursuing CMA is worth considering.





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