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Originally posted by hchheda
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Originally posted by AshwaniG
Please have some mercy on people with mental health . Its not just physical challenges that cripple a person .
So true..
Hiren
Double that truth..
Its a senstive topic but no harm in raising such topics on forums. its an education for others. Thats one of the reason I visit this site. I have no knowledge of the said issue but would like to encourage people to continue raising such real life examples for everybody to know.
Respect to the sufferers but we will relate more with them only if we know how do they cope and survive.
Nobody knows who is next...
True! More awareness is always better than none/little.
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 28-02-14 01:35:08
Guys,
My only reason for raising this question was to question our Canadian govt's probaganda.
When I got my medicals to immigrate to Canada, I immediately googled about Canada. This was in Jan 2001. I saw an article by immigration Canada saying that 1 million jobs will fall vacant due to retirement by Canadians in 2005. I immediately approved by immigration to Canada and in 2014, we know the true situation. I am sure now the cdn. govt. will put the blame on the 2008 recession.
Again when I was in Canada, I used to hear stories (probaganda again) of how cruel USA is with their private healthcare system and if how one lost a job, he was doomed to death due to the lack of health care and how Canada was the best place to be as it had universal health care. This actually made me not to think of moving to USA (which I should have) and made me work labour jobs in Canada and pay taxes.
However, now with this incident, I am really curious. I also spoke to one of my friends (who was a VP, IT of citibank at NY) and he told me that USA has a system of disability insurance paid by the govt. apart from social security. Unfortunately he did not know of the details. Also my friend (who is the one suffering from Parkinson's) said that he will never think of ever returning to India, as he was leading a comfortable life with his govt. benefits and high quality of healthcare.
So who is fooling whom? i could have posted in redflags deals but however chose to post in CD as desi's will be benefited. I am not trying to insult anyone but just digging out facts to expose in the open.
Peace my Murali
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Guys,
My only reason for raising this question was to question our Canadian govt's probaganda.
When I got my medicals to immigrate to Canada, I immediately googled about Canada. This was in Jan 2001. I saw an article by immigration Canada saying that 1 million jobs will fall vacant due to retirement by Canadians in 2005. I immediately approved by immigration to Canada and in 2014, we know the true situation. I am sure now the cdn. govt. will put the blame on the 2008 recession.
Again when I was in Canada, I used to hear stories (probaganda again) of how cruel USA is with their private healthcare system and if how one lost a job, he was doomed to death due to the lack of health care and how Canada was the best place to be as it had universal health care. This actually made me not to think of moving to USA (which I should have) and made me work labour jobs in Canada and pay taxes.
However, now with this incident, I am really curious. I also spoke to one of my friends (who was a VP, IT of citibank at NY) and he told me that USA has a system of disability insurance paid by the govt. apart from social security. Unfortunately he did not know of the details. Also my friend (who is the one suffering from Parkinson's) said that he will never think of ever returning to India, as he was leading a comfortable life with his govt. benefits and high quality of healthcare.
So who is fooling whom? i could have posted in redflags deals but however chose to post in CD as desi's will be benefited. I am not trying to insult anyone but just digging out facts to expose in the open.
Peace my Murali
Now you made your intentions clear, I owe you an apology. But I still feel you should have made it a generic question instead of mentioning your friend's pay, his wife's pay details and the way you framed the whole story. All those details were unnecessary.
The US benefit system not as bad as people make it out be. A lot of benefits are dependent on which state the beneficiary resides in. Most states have EI plans similar to Canada, more appropriately called UI(unemployment insurance) 
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Generally speaking, they don't throw you out of E-R rooms if you don't have insurance. But post surgery care can be severely compromised. However, insurance costs are high if you have been afflicted with even slight health problems.
Obamacare will be a game changer, and for worse. Insurance companies will run their healthcare once it becomes fully operational. Their economy is going to the crappers as well and that will further complicate payout problems for their other social programs.
Canadian system has it benefits for now, even with the prevalent problems. However, the powers-that-be are already murmuring about cuts whether warranted or not. The days of liberal benefits and welfare state are over and past their due date, both politically and economically.
Here's an example of near-future scenario that we could witness in Canada as well. Change-is-a-comin' and we better brace ourselves for it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2544978/Too-old-cancer-treatment-NHS-writing-patients-75.html
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Too old to be given cancer treatment: NHS is 'writing off' patients who are over 75
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Pensioners with cancer are being written off as too old to treat, campaigners said yesterday.They cited figures showing survival rates for British patients aged 75 and over are among the worst in Europe.
Young lung cancer sufferers are only 10 per cent more likely to die within five years than their continental counterparts.But pensioners with the disease have 44 per cent less chance of survival.
The figure for stomach cancer – at 45 per cent – is even worse. And Britons with prostate cancer are a fifth less likely to survive than Europeans if they are 85 and over.
Just 43 per cent live for five years, compared with up to 67 per cent over the Channel. Patients in their 70s and 80s with kidney cancer have a 32 per cent survival rate, compared with 46-53 per cent in Europe.
Ciarán Devane, of Macmillan Cancer Support, which helped produce the figures, said: ‘It’s wrong to write off older people as too old for treatment. With a proper assessment and appropriate treatment, our research shows that many older cancer patients can live for a long time and can even be cured.
‘While it’s good news that so many older people are benefiting from treatment, many thousands more could live longer if our survival rates for over 65s matched those in comparable countries.
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The barriers to getting treatment – which include age discrimination and inadequate assessment methods – must be tackled now so more older people can survive cancer and live for many years.’
The research from Macmillan and the National Cancer Intelligence Network shows that more than 130,000 Britons have survived for at least ten years after being diagnosed with cancer at 65 or over.
The study, which is the first of its kind, also reveals there are more than 8,000 people alive today who have lived for the same time period following diagnosis at 80 or over.
Octogenarian women do particularly well, with twice as many surviving for ten or 20 years as men. Survival rates for the over-75s are worse in Britain than Europe for nine out of ten common cancers.
A small survival advantage is seen for sufferers of melanoma skin cancer.
Caroline Abrahams, of the charity Age UK, said: ‘It’s good news that with the right care and treatment older people can survive for many years after cancer.
'It is often forgotten that people over 75 represent a third of all cancer diagnoses and a half of all cancer deaths. ‘People over 80 with the disease are the only age group in which mortality rates have got worse in the last 40 years.
'An individual’s date of birth should not be used as a proxy for health and fitness or influence treatment decisions. ‘Assessments of older people must be based on their needs and not simply on their age. Anything else is blatant age discrimination.’
Mark Porter, chairman of council at the British Medical Association, said: ‘It is important that all healthcare professionals ensure that patients are treated on the basis of clinical need.
‘With an increasingly ageing population, it should be a key part of medical professionalism to guarantee that older patients are treated with the care and respect they deserve.’
Around 60,000 cases of cancer are diagnosed each year in Britons aged 75 and over.
One in four are prostate sufferers. Gerald Shenton, 78, from Staffordshire, said: ‘I was first diagnosed with renal cell carcinoma in 2000, and I am still here 13 years later, although I’ve suffered from every side effect in the book.
‘I never really had any aftercare because I have always been treated as end stage. I was turned down for a possible treatment twice, being told unofficially that it was because of my age.’
Mick Peake, of the National Cancer Intelligence Network, said: ‘It is vital all patients receive the best and most effective treatment based on the nature of their cancer and their fitness for treatment and that chronological age alone is not the deciding factor.’
That's cruel, EF.
I think it was for UK, but yes I agree with you. Gone are those days when everything in Canada was easy.
Brace yourself for healthcare cuts with decreased services. Not a mecca anymore.
I always think that India like societies full of relatives, friends, neighbors always help in deceases such as Alzheimers and Parkinsons.
