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"Complaining is Stupid. Either Act or Forget" : Stefan Sagmeister



https://www.facebook.com/events/1905972139615020/

The title of the protest is NO RELIGION IN SCHOOLS, and organizers have requested that we not mention Islam in signs. RiseCanada.com will be there and will honor these rules.

The route starts at Mississauga’s CELEBRATION SQUARE (300 City Centre Dr), marches west on Burnamthorpe to Hurontario, then heads north on Hurontario (Hwy 10) ending at Peel District School Board, 5650 Hurontario St.

Any updates on this... I am not from their or else i would have join.


i believe not many people had time to join : as usual

I guess " RA-One " just posted questions - How many people no about " GAzwa-e-Hind" - RA-One this is your answer - not many people care about it... We are mostly all lazy and selfish...

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Here is a link to one such march that took place yesterday. (11th March 2017.)

http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7185585-protesters-march-in-mississauga-to-oppose-prayer-in-public-schools/


FH.

Thank you for taking part from your busy schedules but welcome to Canada - the land of religious freedom and tolerance.

http://www.cp24.com/news/brampton-mayor-supports-new-rules-for-muslim-prayers-in-local-schools-1.3318486

-=LongLiveCanada=-

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I pointed you at the stars and all you saw was the tip of my finger

Don't care what they Mayor thinks or does not think -- One Brampton Mayor was shamed because of her miss in judgment regarding public expenses for private trips.

Religion should not be a part of public life - when in majority or in minority will result in discrimination.

Why do you have to bring religion to public life ? Can't you leave it back home ???

I understand dietary constraints but bringing it in every sphere of life is ridiculous at best.

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Well said, totally agree

Toronto-area schools to allow religion-based class exemptions

Caroline Alphonso - EDUCATION REPORTER The Globe and Mail Published Tuesday, Sep. 06, 2016 7:17PM EDT Last updated Tuesday, Sep. 06, 2016 8:28PM EDT

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Some school boards in the Greater Toronto Area allow students to be exempted from classes based on religious beliefs, including music and art – but only as a last resort and after failing to reach a compromise with parents.

The issue of allowing children to withdraw from classes flared up at Canada’s largest school board after a group of Muslim parents were offered an accommodation, not a full exemption, from music class at their Scarborough elementary school.

Documents obtained by The Globe and Mail reveal a bitter three-year battle between the Toronto District School Board and a group of parents, who said that having their children attend music class violated their Muslim faith. But music is a mandatory part of the Ontario curriculum and the school board suggested students could just clap their hands instead of playing instruments or listen to a cappella versions of O Canada.

“We don’t exempt students. We provide accommodation to the best of our ability,” said Jim Spyropoulos, the school board’s executive superintendent of engagement and well-being. “Obviously, parents have choices to make with respect to their child’s attendance in any type of programming. But it isn’t our practice to exempt students.”

The school board’s policy is not consistent with those of other school boards across the Greater Toronto Area. Its neighbouring board, the Toronto Catholic District School Board, allows for exemptions on a case-by-case basis.

Licinio Miguelo, a spokesman for the York Region District School Board, said his board also grants exemptions. When a request is made to exempt a child from a class on religious grounds, the principal will first speak with the parents to see what steps can be taken to accommodate the student, he said.

“In many cases, such a conversation resolves the request,” Mr. Miguelo said. “If one cannot be found, then an exemption may be provided if necessary.”

Brian Woodland, a spokesman at the Peel District School Board, noted that his school district will not provide religious accommodation or exemption to students from lessons that revolve around different kinds of families, including same-sex couples and transgender parents.

Mr. Woodland said the board does not grant many exemptions, because the principal and parents are generally able to find a way to accommodate the student. The board will also involve religious leaders, if necessary. An accommodation in art class may mean that the student draws shapes, instead of human figures, for example. In gym, schools can accommodate students by allowing them to wear exercise clothes appropriate to their religion.

“We want to do everything we can to help the student be part of the program,” Mr. Woodland said. “If we’ve gone through every possible process and there is no way to accommodate, then our operating procedure says we will offer religious accommodation as full withdrawal.” The exemption is highlighted in a student’s report card.

The Durham District School Board is in step with the TDSB in only offering accommodations, not a full exemption, in subject areas.

At the TDSB, parents at Donwood Park Public School in Scarborough insisted that they could not allow their children to be in the same room where musical instruments were being played. They got the leader of the mosque involved in their fight to exempt their children from music class.

“We here believe that music is haram [forbidden]. We can neither listen to it, nor can we play a role in it,” said the mosque’s imam, Kasim Ingar.

The documents obtained through a Freedom of Information request showed that the issue first surfaced in 2013. At one point, a petition was signed by more than 130 parents, and by the spring of 2015, an interest group known as the National Council of Canadian Muslims got involved on behalf of the parents.

Within Islam, the question of whether Muslims are banned from music is divisive and nuanced.

It is unclear how the situation was resolved at Donwood, but at least one parent kept his children home for the hour music was taught at the school. Officials at the TDSB expect the issue will come up at the school again this academic year.

AND WE SEE THE PEEL DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD PERMITTING FRIDAY PRAYING IS O.K. IN THE SCHOOL. WHAT NEXT?

If tomorrow in the Evolution of Mankind classes they discuss about Homosapiens and if some one (And you know who) finds it against their religious beliefs, would they keep them away from the classes or move them out of their schools?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

Dress Codes.. : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/dress-code-guide-for-muslim-countries/

The relationship between Islam and domestic violence is disputed. Even among Muslims, the uses and interpretations of sharia, the moral code and religious law of Islam, lack consensus.

Conservative interpretations of Surah An-Nisa, regarding marital relationships find that hitting a woman is allowed. Other interpretations of the verse claim it does not support hitting a woman, but separating from her. Variations in interpretation are due to different schools of Islamic jurisprudence, histories and politics of religious institutions, conversions, reforms, and education.[1]

Domestic violence among the Muslim community is considered a complicated humans right issue due to varying legal remedies for women by nation, the extent to which they have support or opportunities to divorce their husbands, cultural stigma to hide evidence of abuse, and inability to have abuse recognized by police or the judicial system in some Muslim nations.

It is O.K. for the School Boards to say their praying on Friday is O.K. But why on the school premises and why in a Cafeteria space. It should be held in the Principals Office. If not in the Open Play Ground in front of a Big Black Rock.

We live in a Democracy, the High Courts say, it falls in the Provincial Jurisdiction. The Province says the School Board should decide upon this issue. I say "TAKE A VOTE" and do what the vote count will say. Then decide. These elected persons next time should get elected based upon all of these points that needs to get addressed.

And, DO NOT FORGET, If there should be a prayer hall, Please build one and let everyone who chooses to pray get into that hall and do it to their hearts content. None of this half assed it is OK thing and hold it in a cafeteria. Why not in the GYM or the wash rooms, they bring their own carpets to throw on the floor, just dim the lights that should do it.

What about the rights of other parents who did not see any of these things 20 years ago and let their kids now join the schools and find that the same school board, a different elected group now, says religion is O.K. now.

We can only talk to reason if these elected personnel are educated people. It is time to sell and move to a different location and let the next group of people take care of these issues that the current Principal and the School Boards cannot resolve them for you. When a couple of hundred decide to move out, then they will lose the strength and slowly shut them down. Unless of course the people who want to pray doubles and as you know, it might even triple.

FH.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/toronto-schools-to-allow-religion-based-class-exemptions/article31731974/