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Roadmap for new comers why and how to buy House in GTA
By: sarmaalo

I am an IT guy and was not knowing anything about mortgage/house buying. Recently I bought a house after one and half year of immigration to Canada, and it is better than what I thought. Hence, I would to share my thoughts which might help or at least get a different perspective.

There are lots of good articles in this site where you can get the details. I just thought to cover it very high level. Some of my ideas or perceptions might be diluted and need corrections. Feel free to give honest feedback and your experience on it.

I suggest all the immigrants to look for buying house to save what they earn and build equity. This will be your first vehicle to rebuild career, put your children in best school, earn more money, start investment so on and so forth. Here are some tips which might help. Handle the whole thing as a project and act professionally as much you can.

Why we need to buy it desperately -->

-Rent cost and mortgage payment cost varies somewhere between 25-30%. With a little bit of effort and very good planning you can buy house instead of wasting the money in rest. I was paying rent of $1100 x 12 = $13200 per year which was almost one fourth of my salary.
-Treat it as investment and think having a fixed shelter on your head as bonus. You should be willing to sell it after some years to go for a better house or move to a place near to your job location. But buy something now to start saving right away.

Who can get loans?

-You must have a stable income, working and earning record for last 1 year.
-Shop around. All Banks and lot of financial institution are ready to give you loans. Use Internet extensively for this.
-Spend some time to compare.

Various avenues to get money -->

-Plan to raise your income
-Get ready to put your spouse to earn something if needed and plan for it.
-Check whether you can do some part-time, weekend work etc if needed for the time being.
-Check how much Line of Credit you can have and apply for it
-Check who can give you minimum down payment. Some bank gives your down payments too. Only $5000 you require to have.
-Get some credit cards applied for emergency

House selection -->

-Sit with map and know your neighborhood.
-Make a statistical ranking of what is your long term and short term goal and give weight age to those.
-From TDSB find out which schools are best and where they are. Visit those places and check whether you can stay there.
-Find out which area you area you should buy based on five major factors :
Best Schools, Office Commuting time / Transport facility, Job availability,
Peaceful neighborhood, Affordability of house in that area based on your income,
Real Estate price appreciation in that area
-Give less weight age to stay near your community people, as you can always drive. Toronto is a small place to go in any direction.
-Find what are the pros and cons of buying Apartment/Condo, Condo Town House, Semi detached, fully Detached etc. Also, find which one will suit your need and affordability at least for five years.
-Find how much square fit you require, and which all appliances and furniture you get automatically.
-Make a sweet spot for all the above based on your need. Don’t get carried away with look and feel or what people say. Check whether your goals are satisfied and house you are buying is trouble free, peaceful where you can focus more on your work, career, education and quality of life.
-Get some feature checklist to judge the quality of house. Get to know from your friends, connections or websites.
-Give weight to availability of place, shopping/food complex near your house
-Evaluate security you want in your house or neighborhood. After all Safety first specially if you are near to downtown or city areas.
-Find family doctor, library, and community center availabilities

One time cost -->

- $5000 down payment
-Lawyer payment $1000-$1200
-Land Transfer fee to lawyer
-CMHC insurance and 8% PST on CMHC (if you have very less down payment)
-Phone, Cable, Internet, Gas, Electricity setup / transfer cost
-Title Insurance
-Mover cost
-Inspection Cost
-Closure Cost
-Painting cost
-Cleaning cost
-Overlapping rent cost (this can be avoided)
-Keep 30 to 0% of above calculated onetime cost extra in case you need as an emergency


Increase / Adjustment of family running cost -->

-Mortgage payment
-Property Tax (sometimes bank handles)
-Condo Management fee (if Condo is bought)
-House insurance
-Gas / Heating cost
-Electricity cost
-Life Insurance / Mortgage insurance
-Home Security
-Water Tax
-Commuting cost
-Furnace, Boiler, heater maintenance costs
-Keep provision of 10-25% extra to cover up hidden costs e.g. repairing, fees etc.

What all planning activities are required?

-Get some pre-approval from Bank/Financial done
-Get minimum down payment and maximum period to payback. If you have more money later, have the option to pay lump sum anytime and reduce the principal.
-Go for Bi-weekly mortgage payment. This will work as miracle and save you unthinkable amount of money and period of payback.
-Get your budget range fix
-Get all websites where you can see all house listed for sale
-Find Life Insurance/Mortgage insurance details. According to me Life Insurance is cheap and far better option than Mortgage insurance
-Find House inspector
-Find a very good lawyer who spends time to answer your queries
-Find House Insurance. Normally it comes bundled with your car insurance.
-Have a checklist what type of house you want and prefer
-From your lawyer, banker and real estate agent get a comprehensive chart of all payments required when when exactly you have to have the money ready
-Find exact Closure cost from lawyers and real estate agents
-Don’t forget to do Title insurance from your lawyer to protect yourself from ID theft
-Know details of closure activities
-Know about Gas, electricity, Furnace, boiler, Air conditioner, water payment and transfer logistics to your name
-Find maintenance contract details of your boiler, air conditioner, furnace etc.
-Get some handy man contacts ready
-Shop around Security system you need to install
-Shop House Inspector
-Find your parking requirement affect to your car insurance due to change of location
-Find Internet, cable and phone cost
-Make a solid checklist for all change of addresses. Some change of addresses you need to do before movement, and some after. Line those up properly. I had 35 change of addresses got carried out.
-Have some checklist or understanding ready how to judge the quality of your house
-In case of buying Condo/Condo Town House find details abut management fees etc.
-Find some reliable real estate agents in the area where you want to buy, and start looking for house. Go with your entire checklists to judge the quality of house, neighborhood, and objectives.
Select a very good mover and go for fixed price contract. It was a nightmare for me when I went for hourly contract.

Risk Assessment -->

-Anything of the above if you can’t satisfy is risk. Don’t ignore those e.g. if your income is not sufficient to run the family after taking house, then wait or find some avenues.
-You should spend time calculating exactly your onetime cost, hidden cost and family running cost.
-If you cannot stick to the above objective and subjective criteria, then those are risk and you will face those either losing money or comfort in future.
-Keep 10-20% percent buffer money for hidden cost after your take house. No one can tell you what are those and from which directions those can come. E.g. you might have emergency to travel to your homeland etc.


What long time benefit you will get ?

-Develop Equity / savings
-Good education for kids
-Less commuting time and hence better quality of life

Refinancing -->

-Think about refinancing after two three years. If you have already squared off 25% of principal, then you can refinance and save a lot.


Comparison with other country real estate investment -->

-In USA and India, you get tax benefit, but here you don’t.



I have some actual checklist used my me to select a house, mortgage calculator, onetime, regular family cost and address change worksheets. These are developed after talking to real estate agents, financial analysts and bank managers. Also, I have all websites URLs of real Estate agents, Banks, Insurance etc.
If you want to know more then contact alok.sarma@gmail.com


Bets of luck!


Regards

Alok Sarma



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vimpatel   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-07 13:46:07

Very informative post Alok.

The main thing I see that first time home buyers tend to under budget are the other carrying costs for the home (utilities, cable, telephone, water, insurance, maintenance etc.)


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kanjis   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-07 14:17:13

Alok,

I have been in this business (Financing) almost 30 years and I find with time that homebuyers are more educated about the product and services as each year goes by.

you Alok have taken the cake!

As a trustee for your family's finances, you have been a good father & a husband.

Excellent job.

Please let me know( by privare email) if I can use your article in charcha for training purposes for the newcomers at my ofice.

thanks & kind regards

S Kanji


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amit kalia   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-02-07 15:40:45

Nice article man :)

You covered most of the Realtor's stuff :clap:

Good to learn that many other professionals complemented your work - real estate salesperson, mortgage broker/ bank, lawyer, home inspector, insurance professional etc. Hopefully that you had some good experience.

Good job!


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Mercury   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-02-07 23:09:15

Good effort for putting down the experience in a organized way ( IT Guy way to go).

The most important credit rating section needs to be added.

Look like it is assumed here that most newcommers are from India but I see a lot from middle east which do not have the same economic situation and it needs to be considered.

-Mercury



sarmaalo   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 15
Location: Scarborough

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-02-07 00:28:09

Quote:
Originally posted by Mercury

Good effort for putting down the experience in a organized way ( IT Guy way to go).

The most important credit rating section needs to be added.

Look like it is assumed here that most newcommers are from India but I see a lot from middle east which do not have the same economic situation and it needs to be considered.

-Mercury



Hi Mercury,


Yes, the credit rating I assumed to be very good, and I missed it. The reason is I had always best credit rating.

Middle east people economic condition....how it is relevant here ? I mentioned that you have to calculate your financial strength before taking this risk. Appreciate if you can clarify more. May be I am missing something.

Regards

Alok



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-07 05:02:55

Must say, that was an invaluable wealth of info - Extremely commendable…



Mercury   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-02-07 21:43:45

Quote:
Originally posted by sarmaalo

Quote:
Originally posted by Mercury

Good effort for putting down the experience in a organized way ( IT Guy way to go).

The most important credit rating section needs to be added.

Look like it is assumed here that most newcommers are from India but I see a lot from middle east which do not have the same economic situation and it needs to be considered.

-Mercury



Hi Mercury,


Yes, the credit rating I assumed to be very good, and I missed it. The reason is I had always best credit rating.

Middle east people economic condition....how it is relevant here ? I mentioned that you have to calculate your financial strength before taking this risk. Appreciate if you can clarify more. May be I am missing something.

Regards

Alok



Hi Alok,
Sorry for the delay as I was tied up. I will try to elaborate in a piece meal.

Why we need to buy it desperately -->

-Rent cost and mortgage payment cost varies somewhere between 25-30%. With a little bit of effort and very good planning you can buy house instead of wasting the money in rest. I was paying rent of $1100 x 12 = $13200 per year which was almost one fourth of my salary.
-Treat it as investment and think having a fixed shelter on your head as bonus. You should be willing to sell it after some years to go for a better house or move to a place near to your job location. But buy something now to start saving right away.

Mercury's comments- The mortgage payment will depend significantly with the down payment and that ratio of 25-30% cannot be applied as a rule of thumb but is is a good guideline. The new immigrants coming from the middle east can own a house in the first month with 35% down payment. They usually tend to save more as there are no state taxes.

House as an investment is good but again it depends on the market situation. I bought my first house for 200K 7 years ago. I checked the records, previous owner bought the same in 1988 for 290K. 92 crash was behind it. It appears to happen in a a cycle with unknown frequency. Housing market in the U.S. has starting falling dramatically. Canada is being lucky until now and I hope it will absorb the wave. With 80% dependency for trade it is more then likely it might happen here. So as far as market is concern you never know. I mean to say it is a risk now may be less risk 6 years ago seeing the volatility of the market.

Who can get loans?

-You must have a stable income, working and earning record for last 1 year.
-Shop around. All Banks and lot of financial institution are ready to give you loans. Use internet extensively for this.
-Spend some time to compare.

Mercury's comments - As I said, stable income for 1 year is not the only criteria. It varies with your debt situation, credit rating, down payment and stability in the same line of business (3 years is preferred). You have different product to deal with each situation. i would tend to say not 1 year earning record but you should be out of your probation period and preferably in the same line of business. ( i.e. a mech. engineer doing mail distribution then tried call center for a while is looked at differently).

Due to varying nature of individual circumstances many time people get surprises when they apply. That's where a mortgage brokek can help. Just like the real estate brokers for buying/selling. If you have good ratings and down payment you do not have to pay the brokers. You get only one hit in your credit rating and the broker can simultaneously shop around for the right product. For e.g. Someone came from the U.K. signed up for the cheapest rate and agreed to all other conditions to buy a condo. These person had intention to pay the full amount after a year which he did not reveal. He had to break the contract for 5 years and paid big fine. If he would have gone through a broker he would get a product which is open and fits his need.

Various avenues to get money -->

Mercury : Raise the income is bang on. It is easier done then said for big amount. part time/weekend jobs , I am not sure how far you can go with it. It is better to take up a job or ready ourselves for the same field job( Working professionals). Minimum down payment is not necessary good. As you know less then 25% is rated as high risk. If anything changes in the market, these people are usually first to loose the house. Getting line of credit is not an avenue to "get money". It is the debt you are incurring. You cannot use that for down payment and the financial institutes looks for your money and not borrowed. It also impacts your borrowing power for mortgage. Making sure you would be able to carry the mortgage through is the key. Credit cards are good for convenience but for emergency it is better to plan for the emergency funds.Yes, some banks give you the down payments but at a premium. Nobody is here for charity. There are hidden things which the brokers usually are aware of. Like the Real estate broker is recomended as you are protected should something undesired situation happen. You may have disputes also. They can guide you through thoose situations. Financial transactions are not always smooth. If you are one person who happen to be the victim the you would know how difficult it is.

-Plan to raise your income
-Get ready to put your spouse to earn something if needed and plan for it.
-Check whether you can do some partime, weekend work etc if needed for the time being.
-Check how much Line of Credit you can have and apply for it
-Check who can give you minimum down payemnt. Some bank gives your down payments too. Only $5000 you require to have.
-Get some credit cards applied for emergency

House selection -->

Mercury's comments: I try will get to it in the following post.

Alok, I am adding my 2 cents and not undermining you effort in putting the things together.

-Mercury



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