Indian IT Job or canadian lifestyle ?


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Ash20   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-07 13:12:47

Public schools are free (but not private schools), but most of the children goes to public schools only (unlike India, where most of the middle class family children goes to private schools).

Medical - It's not free and it depends on province to province, how they charge you. In BC, you have to pay $108 pm for the family for doctor's visit & hospitalization. You have to pay for all the medicines, unless your employer provide you extended health insurance. Some employers do provide even $108 pm (or partial amount) paid for government medical insurance (low income family can also get assistance in paying the premium). In Ontario, I think (not sure) they deduct some percentage of amount from your salary (for low income family, probably free).


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Originally posted by dragoman

But the biggest plus point i guess over there is education is free till schooling ... and also the medical ( I have only heard this but dont know the real fact) which take care of most of the expenses .. correct me if I am wrong ?




chittesh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-07 17:29:50

Dragonman,

Schools here are free and good, there is no denyng the fact.
Health is just OK as there can be some serious wait times at hospitals and for surgeries. The knwoledge of doctors in india is as much and more than what we have. honestly i havent been to a doctor here yet, so i cannot comment a lot.

Noone can tell the future but based on what is going on in the country right now(criminal politicans, corruption) India will not be near Canada for the next 50 years atleast when it comes to roads, environment, water, system etc, but thats why we have money in india we cirvumvent the system, if govt work takes lot of time pay money, bad roads, buy a car with good suspension, pollution, live in AC, no public heathcare go to pvt institution.
Money can buy u a lot of things. I would say this. Based on your experience and qualifications you may get a typical 50-65k job in today's money whenever your struggle period is over. The struggle period may last from 3 months to forever depending on your luck.
Now, at the time you get your PR if you are making 18lakhs or plus of today's money in India dont come here.

I agree that if you want to live the high end life India is much more expensive than Canada.
e.g if you want to live in a posh 2bedroom apartment, drive a corolla and go to a decent school, as working middle class you can do that in Canada but not in India.
But with 18Lakhs in Today's money you can do all that in india and circumvent all that is bad.

The BIG questions is: Will you become Canada's middle class or will become Canada's low income individual.
A Indian middle class is 1000 times well off than Canada's low income individual.

Since you are in IT you will be able to do something good here if you try hard enough, and since you are young (are you married?) you can be sucessful, you need a lot of good luck.





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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-07 08:35:16

1. The warm(th) of India can be realized only in the chill of Canada.
2. Money is important but not everything.
3. It is important that we provide a good environment for our children. But it is more important that we provide the right environment (which our parents provided and only because of which we could get this far) to bring up their own children.


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
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Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-07 17:54:19

:cheers:

Thats what I meant by culture and value differences.

Ramar , were you in Canada ?

India is geared for the low income group. All the Govt infrastructure (lack of) is geared for that .Thats why transportation and other things are so cheap. And one is relatively richer if one earns a good salary.


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shankaracharya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-07 15:23:57

Dear Mr.Ramar 2005,

Wonderful statement. Congratulations on becoming a R2I. I was very happy to know about your decision and wishing you all the success in India. More over it was heart warming to hear that your son has topped in +2 Exams in India and wish him all the well in his future endeavour. Will be very happy to be hear from you that he has obtained admission for MBBS in India.

The most ironic thing here is that the very same people who derided you on your opinions about Canada have changed tune and are singing a very different tune now. This very same thread is the proof for the same. In some news items they usually have a section called \\\"Whatever happened to these people ?\\\" and they list the then and now photos with a write up on what they were doing before and what they are upto now.

I have a long list of various Desis on this site who used all the bravado in their writeups and claims that they would do this and that when they were waiting for their landing papers in their home/resident countries. When you had pointed out to them the pit falls they responded to you it was your failure and they will do it right. I feel writing about them now but it would be a waste of my time and theirs as they have totally disappeared from the board. The irony is that we do know about some of them who are once again going the very same way we predicted and doing the very jobs we mentioned. I laugh all the time when I heard about this particular person who used all his bravado and now is lifting boxes somewhere in GTA, while his family back home thinks that he is working in a Bank. There is the other gentleman from ME who is still to update on his landing experience.

I'm very happy to hear that you are a R2I on a no loss/no gain financially. Hope to hear from you near soon and please keep us updated of your progress in India and if possible kindly help out those Desis who intend to R2I.

Good Luck and God Bless !.


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"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"


GlobalIndian   
Member since: Apr 07
Posts: 171
Location: NB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-07 15:35:32

Mr Sankar.... what is your beef about manual labor? I hope you don't have a broad contempt against all folks in the society who are laborers. Besides, that Indian may be is quite strong and healthy because of his labor job. I have to pay to lift weights!



shankaracharya   
Member since: Dec 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-07 20:46:16

Hi Global Indian,

There was a time when I was a kid and I used to play lot of cricket and my studies suffered. My father always used to tell me that if you do not quit your sports and concentrate on your studies and do well you'll end up being a porter or wash toilets/sweep floors.

I studied hard and got all good grades and went to best schools/colleges in the world and even got 83 points on my skilled immigration points for Canada. But what did I ended up doing when I landed in Canada the exact same things what my father said lifting boxes and cleaning toilets.

I do not have anything towards the people who are doing it for a living but my only beef is that I do not need to go through all the education/training and accomplishments in life to do this in Canada. In all the honesty the Canadian immigration system should incorporate two selection clauses of how many pounds of weight you can lift and a how many toilets/floors you can clean and mop with in a given time. They should conduct these exams in the CHC - New Delhi so that they can stop people like me landing here and recruit immigrants from our Sauchalyas and Railway stations in place of bringing in educated guys.

As you might heard before \"The mind is a terrible thing to Waste\".


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Speech by Thomas Friedman of The New York Times....

"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"




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