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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-08 14:25:04

There is a huge political and social side to the stock-market as well.
Most people believe, as you noted above, that stock market reflects the state of the economy.
So if the market is down, they assume that the economy must be in bad shape.

And when something is in a bad shape, it is always the Govt's fault, right?

And a bad economy in an election year is a very, very dicey situation.

Public office is won/lost based on the state of the economy (Remember Clinton's "It's the economy, stupid" to oust Bush Sr. from office)?

Which is why governments and central banks lose no time in taking whatever measure they can to restore liquidity and consumer confidence.

In some cases, it only postpones the underlying problems to another day, but sometimes it works in the short term.

If they don't take action, the decline will be much more rapid and much more painful.


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DP_gta   
Member since: Dec 07
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Location: GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-08 21:31:51

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When did we last had deflationary recession? (Negative inflation)

Probably not at a global scale since the 1929 - 1930s.
As I said, inflationary recession is worse than deflationary recession.
We have had several of those, like in the 1970s and in the late 1980s.




In the 1970s there was only one bear market in the US as I remember from early 73 to end 74 almost 2 years (more like 20 months if my memory serves me well- all engineered by Sheik Yamani-Shake your money- of Saudi Arabia) when the S&P dropped by 50%- but hey following that the market rebounded by over 100% so basically one was back to square one and that did take some time.
In the 80s there were 2 ugly periods. 80-82 when the S&P tumbled 30%, but regained over 200%.Here the bear hug also lasted almost 2 years
Then in the late 80s it was only a few months 3-4 that the bear hugged us all and the S&P tumbled 35% to regain 65%.
In 90 for another 3 months the bear hug was on and the markets went down 20% only to regain 400% right up to the tech bubble and the subsequent 9/11 scenario. S&P high at that time was 1527.46 and lost 50% and to date, though I think it did cross the high of 1527.46, it has for the most part traded below that high and man, people are still feeling good despite that fact.

We weathered them all- the bear periods that is

Please note above is all based on the S&P and is not indicative of anything but serves only as an informational piece and is all based on memory, though if you were to do a study everything would be mighty close.



You go a long way Investpro. Gosh, during 1971 I was busy following para drop on Dhaka and other war stories on Padma river BD
Recently there was such a negative inflation in Japan for long time. No matter what they did they couldnot get people to spend.

My 2 cents worth US may come down to 2% and Canada may come to 3% during 2008. That too only if inflation rises otherwise our housing sector is going to get hit. Those who are on floating rate, bhalay bhalay. And those of us who are in fixed rate, look left high and dry. :(



vimpatel   
Member since: Jun 06
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Location: Toronto/GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-01-08 13:39:11

I have read many forums, articles etc and it does look like the Bank of Canada will continue to slash the prime rate....I agree with DP_gta and see the rate being at 3% sometime this year.

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My 2 cents worth US may come down to 2% and Canada may come to 3% during 2008. That too only if inflation rises otherwise our housing sector is going to get hit. Those who are on floating rate, bhalay bhalay. And those of us who are in fixed rate, look left high and dry. :(


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nari   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-01-08 14:30:25

I was reading through one of the articles posted on the internet

http://www.fiscalagents.com/newsletter/4ca_gi_mortratesup.shtml

Is this feasible for new mortgages or its applies to to the mortgage which have already been set up and are up for renewal.
Can we acutally spilt our new mortages into fixed and variable portions
Thanks for your suggestions.

[If it seems difficult to choose between a fixed and variable or long and short mortgage, you don't necessarily have to choose. Perhaps the easiest and best solution is to break your mortgage into pieces and diversify your borrowing across short and long terms. This is mortgage "laddering," a concept Canadians know and use to stagger their GIC maturities for diversification, but which surprisingly few of us use for our mortgages. Diversification is an important principal that applies as much for borrowing as it does for investing. By blending different types of mortgages and staggering maturities, you can diversify your interest rate risk, and perhaps minimize your interest costs. ]

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investpro   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-01-08 23:23:27

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I have read many forums, articles etc and it does look like the Bank of Canada will continue to slash the prime rate....I agree with DP_gta and see the rate being at 3% sometime this year.




Technically speaking BofC does not cut prime rate just the rate it lends to the banks.Then the banks decide to cut the prime rate.
There was chatter that the banks would not follow suit if BofC cut its rate, but looks like it was exactly that- chatter.

The Bofc rate is now at 4%. So you see it going down to 3% or you see the prime rate going down to 3%? The prime right now is 5.75%.




vimpatel   
Member since: Jun 06
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Location: Toronto/GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-01-08 13:09:48

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I have read many forums, articles etc and it does look like the Bank of Canada will continue to slash the prime rate....I agree with DP_gta and see the rate being at 3% sometime this year.




Technically speaking BofC does not cut prime rate just the rate it lends to the banks.Then the banks decide to cut the prime rate.
There was chatter that the banks would not follow suit if BofC cut its rate, but looks like it was exactly that- chatter.

The Bofc rate is now at 4%. So you see it going down to 3% or you see the prime rate going down to 3%? The prime right now is 5.75%.



Sorry I guess I didn't word it in the best way. I see the Bank of Canada rate going as low as 3% but at least to 3.5%. The next rate announcement I believe is in the first week of March.

Some banks are reluctant to match the Bank of Canada cut. Thanks to all the subprime mess they bought from our friends down south they ended up losing loads of $.

Investpro: What is your outlook on rates this year?


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