Dusting off an old controversy


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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-10 16:07:08

The whole 'MUST speak local language' demand is flawed on various counts. Let me show you how:

Even though there's an ethical/moral (questionable) demand of 'Speak local language', it's not practically possible. What practically possible is to use the local language where the vendors, shopkeepers, public employees CAN NOT speak English and/or Hindi. For those places, it is a practical demand to speak the local language. This is because you can't get your work done had it not for the local language. However, if I am walking on the street or at home talking to my family, friends, or the people who could speak Hindi and/or English then I shouldn't be obliged/forced to speak local language.

It should be an individual's prerogative to speak in whatever language their work gets done or they are comfortable with. India is a democracy for God's sake. Individuals must speak and/or learn local languages out of respect for the language and not because someone is asking or forcing you to.

Just like in Canada or Western countries, where the official language is English. I can't speak Hindi at work, so I speak English. However, no-one in Canada could force me to speak in English if I am walking down the street or at home talking to my family/friends. When you try to force it, you lose all reasoning however ethical it may be.

Vandemataram: How does someone's private life affect their public acts/opinions? So, just because someone is a bad husband, he doesn't have any opinion on politics/sports/current-affairs?



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-10 16:11:32

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Originally posted by Vandematram

Total BS.

If you accept that it is OK for her brother and sister to LIVE together(you know what I mean) then whatever she says is okay.



I think you are mixing up two different families

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I don't know why people listen to this old lady who will flaunt all social rules/laws and ethics in her private life and attack someone who is doing something good.



OK. So Malika is old and Amitabh is young? And what good is Amitabh doing? I do not think he is being selfless when he is promoting Gujarat. He is a businessman first and social worker second.

And what has Malika's private life anything to do with this scenario? What she does in her own private life is her own personal problem. We have no right to judge a person from what he/she does in the privacy of his/her own life, until it does not clashes with his/her sphere of duty.

I do not know why Amitabh is treated as "Holier-than-thou" character in this whole issue and why Malika is maligned? Just because she is woman and trying to tell a truth?



manserwadekar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-10 16:31:28

Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

The whole 'MUST speak local language' demand is flawed on various counts. Let me show you how:

Even though there's an ethical/moral (questionable) demand of 'Speak local language', it's not practically possible. What practically possible is to use the local language where the vendors, shopkeepers, public employees CAN NOT speak English and/or Hindi. For those places, it is a practical demand to speak the local language. This is because you can't get your work done had it not for the local language. However, if I am walking on the street or at home talking to my family, friends, or the people who could speak Hindi and/or English then I shouldn't be obliged/forced to speak local language.

It should be an individual's prerogative to speak in whatever language their work gets done or they are comfortable with. India is a democracy for God's sake. Individuals must speak and/or learn local languages out of respect for the language and not because someone is asking or forcing you to.

Just like in Canada or Western countries, where the official language is English. I can't speak Hindi at work, so I speak English. However, no-one in Canada could force me to speak in English if I am walking down the street or at home talking to my family/friends. When you try to force it, you lose all reasoning however ethical it may be.


Again here is the thing:
1) No oppose to the language that you speak or to your "mother tongue"
2) Accept it or not fact is that Mumbai is part of Maharashtra and language for official communication is Marathi.

3) Oppose is that you live there for years and do not learn marathi? Even if you marathi you do not want to talk in Marathi?
4) Give an example of any other city within country where people do not communicate in the local language?
5) Oppose is to publish local government jobs in the newspapers other than the local news papers and select the candidates without even giving hint to the locals?
6) Oppose is to denial of jobs because you speak marathi?
7) Oppoose is not to get non-maharashtrian elected based on your community, oppose is to purposefully not communicate in official language even though constitution requires it.
One can never stop what language they speak in their home but it is very natural to learn /pick up local language where you have been living and earning your income for generations.

Although India is a Unique but lets take Canadian example since it was referred above. You live in Quebec lets say for generations won't you learn French? if not you, your kids will definitely do so. You speak Gujju, Tamil, Marathi whatever language with your friends, family even withhin shopping stores where you see desi. But you still will see traffic signs in French.

Just to be on the record, I am not PR or spokeperson for Thakres. In fact Shivsena now should close their shop.
This is probably what is in minds of many marathi speaking mumbaikars that resulted electing MNS candidate elected. Of course media balooned it since many of the media channels owned by non marathi speaking folks who lived there for generations.
Good decision by Bachhan to be brand ambassador of Gujarat..he do not want to go back to UP and he kind of started to not like Maharashtra or basically never made an attempt to like it.



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-03-10 10:28:36

http://toi.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-will-be-Keralas-brand-ambassador-confirms-Big-B-/articleshow/5701752.cms

I am ready to do anything as long as my bank balance gets bigger and bigger.

There is only one word that comes to my mind for a person who will do anything for money. And I better not use it on this forum



manserwadekar   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-03-10 11:03:36

Na ghar ka na ghaat ka. :D



mumdxbcan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-03-10 14:30:38

What's wrong for becoming BRAND Ambassador for Gujarat & Kerala ?

I guess he is not doing for MONEY !



Contributors: meghal(4) manserwadekar(4) febpreet(2) Vandematram(1) imwhoever(1) mumdxbcan(1)



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