Blatant DISCRIMINATION for VISA by Indian Govt - How is this even possible?


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chattersking   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 13:47:02

Hello Everyone,
I need your help because one of my friend is getting married in Delhi this month and has invited me and my girlfriend to be at the wedding. We are really excited for the couple and they plan on doing a BIG FAT INDIAN WEDDING.

Anyway's the consulate is playing hardball with my Girlfriend because her grand father was born in present day Pakistan. According to this because of this stipulation she will have to face the music and go through different process and which might even delay or refuse.

Here is my problem, and where I find blatant discrimination, racism and inhumane policies -- infact I cant even believe this is allowed in 21st century.

- My girlfriend is a Canadian Citizen BORN in Canada.
- Her parents are also Canadian Citizen by birth.
- At no point has she EVER had Pakistani nationality or any ties to that country.
- Her grand-father was born in present day Pakistan.

How is this her fault? If she is not a pakistani citizen, and her passport is Canadian why is she being punished for things that were beyond her control and no fault of hers?
Also when the grand-father was born it was still in British India and therefore at that time when he was alive he could have very well been an Indian.

How is this possible? Whats going on? I need help, we have a wedding to attend. :cry:



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 15:40:03

China issues a staples Visa and most of the times declines applications from Arunachal Pradesh .. US has had a history of declining Visas to Indian Defence Officers who served in Kashmir ... Go figure ....

Even in Canada some people get parents Visa and some do not ...

Visa policies are very specific and internal to a country and even then may change from case to case .... I heard recently that quite a few people from Pakistan have been given Visas to visit India and watch cricket ....


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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 16:16:36

How did the Indian mission discover her grandfather's country of birth? I don't recall that detail being asked in a visa application. Usually, the details stop at parents of the applicant. Or is it through the mission's own investigation based on her name?

In any case, every country has its policies when it comes to issuing a visa regardless of how unfortunate or ridiculous they might be.


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pokiri   
Member since: Nov 09
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 18:19:30

Countries reject thousands of visa applications everyday. I don't call it as discrimination or racism. Indian visa rules have become complex after David headly case.

Does your girlfriend visited Pak recently? Another issue may be her name matching some one in India's wanted list. Most 'Sharuk Khan's have difficulty entering US. Sharukh is a FBI wanted name so most Sharuk's have difficulty dealing with US.



san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 19:57:33

chattters;ing is not ranting mountain for a mole, Actually the Indian tourist visa form contains 2 questions which can be pain in any neck bearing pakistani blood.

1. Are you canadian citizen by birth or by naturisation ? if naturisation then what was the previous nationality ?
no issues here for canadian born,

2. Countries visited in last 10 years ?
hmmmm.. 3 visits to pakistan, of all the countries , why ?

well its easy to escape from that one , but here is the lynchpin

3. Were your grandfather / grandmother (paternal / maternal ) pakistani nationals or belong to pakistani held area ?

dada dadi nana nani sabka bolo ! and not only pakistan but also bangladesh and azad kashmir ka batao !

and then our desi brothers say , Indian govt kuchch karti nahi !!

Anyway to our concerned OP, this should not be cause of concern for your gal as she got nothing to do with anything. She is not the first one to go with that status. It is a lil formaility in this case. Any delay will be pure bad luck and nothing else. All the best



chattersking   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-12-12 21:55:58

Exactly -- this is a blatant discrimination and undue hardship. India is the only country who actually tries to punish its citizens for no rhyme or reason and make things difficult and complicated.

To those who say I should deal with it and expect to roll over is a wrong argument. We pump billions of dollars to the economy and India being a signatory of UN must abide by certain rules and policies.

Like I said before, she has NO ties to that country, and she was born here. Why does her dead grandfather have any bearing to our case. She is not a criminal, she hasn't done anything wrong so why the impartiality? If a gora applies from Canada he gets the visa, if a person of DESI origin applies to this DESI country they are made to go through such treatment like criminals.

Cmon no other country treats their citizens like this; comparing India to US is ridiculous because there is a system in place that makes sense, and secondly they are reasonable enough to understand the difference between black and white.



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-12-12 02:03:46

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Originally posted by chattersking

Hello Everyone,
I need your help because one of my friend is getting married in Delhi this month and has invited me and my girlfriend to be at the wedding. We are really excited for the couple and they plan on doing a BIG FAT INDIAN WEDDING.

Anyway's the consulate is playing hardball with my Girlfriend because her grand father was born in present day Pakistan. According to this because of this stipulation she will have to face the music and go through different process and which might even delay or refuse.

Here is my problem, and where I find blatant discrimination, racism and inhumane policies -- infact I cant even believe this is allowed in 21st century.

- My girlfriend is a Canadian Citizen BORN in Canada.
- Her parents are also Canadian Citizen by birth.
- At no point has she EVER had Pakistani nationality or any ties to that country.
- Her grand-father was born in present day Pakistan.

How is this her fault? If she is not a pakistani citizen, and her passport is Canadian why is she being punished for things that were beyond her control and no fault of hers?
Also when the grand-father was born it was still in British India and therefore at that time when he was alive he could have very well been an Indian.

How is this possible? Whats going on? I need help, we have a wedding to attend. :cry:


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SO, you do know that there is a different route that you have to take to get the VISA to go to India.. So face the music.

Here is the procedure...: The references provided are for your information. Hang on to them, just incase you want to know.

http://www.immihelp.com/citizenship/dual-citizenship-recognize-countries.html

http://tribune.com.pk/story/468464/amendment-act-draft-of-dual-nationality-bill-tabled/

If you have a birth certificate from Canada, then a certified copy or a notarized copy... KEEP TWO COPIES HANDY

If you have Canadian Passport, then a photocopy of the front page....

COPY of One more Government Issued Photo ID, such as Driver's License....

A letter notarized by a lawyer recognized by the High Commission of India stating that you are renouncing your Pakistani Citizenship or the rights to one... (GET A FEW XTRA COPIES) It has to be done by a LAWYER. Also they have the standard forms with them to fill.

Fill in a Visa application with Canadian Passport and appear at VFS or the High Commission of India and if required, swear an affidavit there too. FEES as required...

Time taken, 30 days or less.

If you have your wedding Invitation and also a tentative booking for the group, pending the VISA, then ask for XPRESS Service and pay the extra fees.

This is a standard procedure.

Please don't scream.......R.......

FH



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