I am not coming to Canada, No no - Coming Now!
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Dear All,

The most awaited day, for which I waited for 3 years came in my life and I WAS NOT HAPPY. I got the waiver on 18th June. Let me list out the reasons,

1 Canadiandesi.com, after reading so many posts I came to know about the reality prevailing at this time.

2 My family, I do not want my family to be broken. My parents are above 70 now and I am the only son.

3 My present financial & professional status in India. I and my wife both work in the booming finance sector in India and the joint income is touching almost 8 lakhs P.A. Net take home comes to almost 55 K.

Let me tell you, I do wish to see the world, earn more money and face new challenges, BUT NOT AT THE COST OF MY PRESENT. I live in PRESENT and I feel, that is stronger in my case then any other ambitions.

I gave myself 5 options, and after analyzing each and every minute thing attached, I finally selected the 4th option. And that means I am not coming to Canada for settlement.

Here are the 5 options

1 We both Go there, wind up everything here, do part time jobs, study further and start struggling to settle. And most importantly pray to god, that within these 2/3 years, nothing should happen to my family members (major health issues), otherwise, we would have to come back and would ultimately result in to major financial and TIME LOSS.

2 My wife continues here, I reach Canada, do the same thing without her and try calling her after I settle. And then family members can start coming on visitor visas till we reach to a stage of sponsoring them).

3 Completely forget the project and firmly accept to stay in India and grow further. I would even save some 2 lakhs, which is required to be paid before leaving (Rs. 67300 (RCMP) + 65500 (AGENT fees) + 60000 (AIR TICKEST). These two lakhs can once again enable us to re-gain the Indian luxuries like car/ac etc..(I SOLD MY CAR ETC..To cope up with the project's fund requirement).

4 Fourth, which I thought to be more intense one right now, i.e. I go there for 15/20 days alone, take my PR and reach back India. I had long discussions with my boss and leaves up to 20/30 days should not be a problem. With this we would loose 162800 (except my wife's air ticket everything is same as above), but we will take that as investment for future. Because with PR holding, in future I am keeping the option open, or our kids can have their future option open. At least the doors would not be closed for us for ever. After reaching back, we would re-engage ourselves with our Indian work routine and start saving for future. If I do not get what I should be after 2/3 years in my growth path here, at least I can re-open the option of Canada.

5 "We both go together, get the PR, I come back and resume in my duties. My wife stays back with her cousin and start looking for a job (I am yet to check the technicality involved, as whether Principal applicant can come back without SPOUSE). Because at least one positive factor in majority, I have found that females do get jobs fast. If she can sustain for a period of 6 months, I can then join her with more savings. This is a reverse scene then point - 2, but the advantage is that the bigger part of current income is continued. Only my wife's salary loss would take place ,which can be easily replaced by her any part time call centre or banking job in Canada.


Finally I selected the no. 4 option and that too, we both would go in APRIL - 2005 for 20 days and come back with PR. Hence we would have our 5 years clock beginning from 2005. I could have gone alone right now, but when we have an opportunity then why we should not go together for 20 days on a vacation and come back.

I thought of sharing this, as I know there are so many like me in the queue. I seek your valued inputs now, whether you agree/endorse to my decision or not.

Regards,

VJ


And now I changed my decision:


I know, this is going to catch a huge FIRE. But yes, today at this moment I have no doubt whatsoever, that "I AM COMING TO CANADA". I know lot of people (more then 6000 views to my earlier post of NOT COMING TO CANADA), would react in different ways. Some will say, Kya ho gaya, pahele na bolta tha, why he is coming, or some will say, aa gaya na line pe?

But, that’s the way it is. So many things I wrote in my replies about justifications at each step of my decision. But since few days, it’s been a battle of lot of thoughts. Lot of reality based factors. Lot of professional factors. However the reason remains the same as I once again repeat, I always go on three factors "STHAL (PLACE), "SANJOG (CIRCUIMSTANCE) and SAMAY (TIME).

Why I am coming (On personal factors)

I still remember a scene of a Hindi movie called "Dilwale Dulhaniya le jayenge", it was ANUPAM KHER, the father talking to SHAHRUKH KHAN, the son. Shahrukh khan requests Anupam that he wants to go to EUROPE for vacation and first he says no. But listening that the SON decides not to go, he immediately says nahi "TUJE EUROPE JARUR JANA HAI, APNE LIYE NAHI TO MERE LIYE, TUJE MERI JAWANI JINI HAI".

The point is sometimes, one generation has to sacrifice for many more to come. It happens actually, especially in our Indian culture. My father was a simple, small-time Govt. servant. Daily in the morning he used to paddle his HERO CHAMP (I remember the moped name) and slowly at the speed of 30 KPH, he would reach his office and in the evening, I used to wait for him and see him coming back in the same tilted way of sitting on the moped. He worked for 37 long years at the same place. He did manage to bring us up. I had a 100 % physically handicapped sister, who recently died. I have other 2 sisters, who got married within the last 3 years. He got retired in 92 and I had to take over, and that too without completing my Graduation. I could do only a small DIPLOMA. SO today I am once again like my father making two ends meet.

So when I used to see that 3rd or 4th page of my passport since last few days with a WHITE STMAP on it, written as "CANADA VISA", I used to do a lot of SELF TALK. What should I do for my next generation to come? I think I am fighting for myself right now, not for my future generations to come. We owe a lot to the coming world. What I feel is every person, who is the bread winner of his family must have a progressive thinking. Progressive is like X+1 (with a vision of next 2 generations). THE BOTTOMLINE IS I WANT TO CREATE A VERY STRONG UNBREAKABLE PLATFORM FOR MY FAMILY MEMBERS (MY KIDS, MY SISTER’S KIDS AND OTHERS) BY EARNING MORE IN A PLACE LIKE CANADA.

Why I am coming (On professional factors)

Recently I got promoted and I came to kutch. I am always attached to a place called BHUJ, which is my native. Somehow after the earthquake and after my survival from the earthquake (as me and my wife do not want to remember the date 26th Jan, I am not writing much about the experience), I took a decision of coming to KUTCH. Now the place for the base station is GANDHIDHAM. And let me tell you its one of the most horrible places I have ever experienced in my life, DUST, POILLUTION, TRANSPORT, WATER, ELECTRICTY PROBLEM, LANGUAGE, MENTALITY OF PEOPLE what not…I generally fit my self in any condition. But this town makes me crazy. Can you believe every night when you finally sleep after a hectic work schedule of 14 hours, Electricity goes off for 3,4,5 hours. My wife and I literally do not sleep. I work in a private insurance company as a branch manager with income more then 6 lakhs P.A and my wife is an ASST MANAGER with a bank earning more then 2.5 lakhs P.A. Can you believe with this kind of income, we can live a king-size life. BUT THIS PLACE CALLED GANDHIDHAM IS NOTHING FOR US. You can’t even breathe well. I can't leave being a senior before 2 years.

So that’s the story so far, I know I may have lot of reactions from you all, but my decision is final now “I AM COMING, NOT FOR THE PRESENT BUT FOR THE FUTURE”

I would surely contribute further on this. I wanted to convey my feeling and the decision, hence I have not written full.


VJ



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VJ   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 441
Location: Mississauga-Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-04 01:45:27

Dear All,

In my view and commitment to be online with all my developments, let me share with you that the e-CAS showed a changed status on 5th. Its showing "Decision Made" from "In process". Moreover I got a call from the CIC for confirming my indian address, as my mailling address is of my agent who is in canada.

I feel the VISAs should be in my hand within couple of days. Well like I said for my present status, the same will go in my INVESTMENT FILE for a while. With all my fixed deposits and NSCs, now the great CANADIAN VISA would also be filed. July'2005 would be the expiry date.

Regards,

VJ.



Interceptor   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 172
Location: Missisauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-04 09:29:02

Hi guys

what do u think for references? it is nothing but lagvaag in gujarati..

THey say if u want a job in your field u should have good networking and references of some of the friends in the same co. i.e simple a sifarish..

Are babu yeh to India se bhi badtar place hai ...india me kum se kum govt. job ke alaava doosri job s me to shaayad sifarish ki jaroorat hogi magar labour mein to nahin...


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VJ   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 441
Location: Mississauga-Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-04 10:05:06

Dear Interceptor babu (AS),

Hamne to apko pahele se follow kiya hai.. After reading your recent posts, humko lag raha hai, hamara decision thik hi hai. India main maje se job karenge, CANADA SE PR LEKE AYENGE and future main gumne jayenge.

But...one at a time. You know I walk on three "SA".."STHAL", "SANJOG" aur "SAMAY". Kal kya hoga kise khabar. Aaj ka hamne bata diya.

Rgds,

VJ



Amit_chawla   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1
Location: India

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-04 03:19:59

:cheers: VJ

First of all i will like to say that you have taken perfect decision by choosing option no 4.

Even i have applied for canadian immigiration with this point itself... I had applied for the immigiration with this aim itself....

ANd to refer Boncon . 55K is good income and i would say that choosing yourself among 10% and not 90% is quite a bold decision and life is not that safe and lucky for all...

So VJ Do take the PR and visit Carabean and even ontario , no problem in increasing tourism industry of country you are thinking to migrate.

Last thing to add is one should keep his all options open till last .... and dont let the circumstances force to take the decision......

Good luck
regards
amit



VJ   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 441
Location: Mississauga-Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-04 10:43:07

Dear All,

As a part of my commitment to all of you about each and every step development, I am pleased to share with you that "THE VISAS HAVE FINALLY ARRIVED TODAY"!!!!

Its a mixed feeling, off course not fully dull compared to the one I had on receiving the interview waiver. For someone like me, who is the first person in the entire generation of my family to get a foreign VISA, deffinitely means a lot. And thats why I have no hesitation to say that I am a happy man today. If I remember each and every day I spent in the last 3 and a half years, its a matter of happipness.

For all who wants to know my time line

its, MAY - 2001 - Filing the papers
APRIl - 2004 - IELTS
JULY-2004 - Medicals
September 2004 - VISA

As I have given my feel in the journey of this thread so far, I would continue working and go to CANADA in APRIl 2005. Its 7 months from today and hence I would decide only after I land, whether to come back or start fighting.

Regards & Thanks to all.....I woudl keep posting all my developments.

VJ



Kap   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 299
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-04 10:51:09

Quote:
Orginally posted by VJ

Dear All,

As a part of my commitment to all of you about each and every step development, I am pleased to share with you that "THE VISAS HAVE FINALLY ARRIVED TODAY"!!!!

Its a mixed feeling, off course not fully dull compared to the one I had on receiving the interview waiver. For someone like me, who is the first person in the entire generation of my family to get a foreign VISA, deffinitely means a lot. And thats why I have no hesitation to say that I am a happy man today. If I remember each and every day I spent in the last 3 and a half years, its a matter of happipness.

For all who wants to know my time line

its, MAY - 2001 - Filing the papers
APRIl - 2004 - IELTS
JULY-2004 - Medicals
September 2004 - VISA

As I have given my feel in the journey of this thread so far, I would continue working and go to CANADA in APRIl 2005. Its 7 months from today and hence I would decide only after I land, whether to come back or start fighting.

Regards & Thanks to all.....I woudl keep posting all my developments.

VJ



Dear VJ,

Congrates !

Well plan. If you need any kind of info or help, please let me know without any hasitate.

"Apane bhai ake bija ne kaam nahi avia to biju kon avashe"

Regards,


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skn   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 21
Location: INDIA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-09-04 04:52:47

Dear VJ,

When you have submitted your pass port? In my I have submitted on 27.08.2004. How many days CHC Delhi is taking to returne the passport with Visa. In fact I have submitted my passport on receipt of a remainder from CHC Delhi.


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