Swami(s) and Baba(s) are making people fool. You dont need them to pray a god. Some swamis say god to themselves. It's money making business. That day is not too far when these ashrams and sansthan will list them on BSE or TSX.

A year or two back, while I was in India, i read a news about Stan (Breast) baba, who used to put his hand women breast to get baby child. Lately, police captured him.

We should not forget a child was sexually abused in kalupur mandir. and prostitution occurred too.

Some NRI was killed for diclosing the money information of the parivar to the newspaper.

Only few sanstha(s) are real, they really do samaj seva. Most of all are Bakwaas!! I believe whatever happened in ahmedabad is for sell of child organs or for tantrik experiments.

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Hi,

As you are talking about Asaram Bapu, I thought I will also join in discussion and share my views.

Sometimes we have think with our own intellect before getting into the trap of media when comes to saints because What is happening is nothing new for Hindu saints.. Samaj have created similar problems for Buddha..Kabir…Nanak ..Vashishth Je during their mortal period.

Itseems now the truth came out and all the media newspapers who published that it was mysterious death clearly now stated that \" The boys joined the Gurukul 1 month ago, they escaped from backside of ashram and got drowned in sabarmati river. Police, Post mortem report, CBI enquiry, FSL report gave a ” clean chit” report to ashram saying it was natural death caused by drowning in water. And few news papers have already published this fact. Asaram bapu himself asked the government to treat the case fairly without any vendetta & also asked them for CID raids so that people do not get into conclusions before coming to a decision\"


I think we should see this real facts Video of what happened in Amhedabad Ashram :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4299973905946223283&hl=en

Just think here with your good intellect ” If the two children who joined a hostel 1 month back escaped from hostel and unfortunately got drowned in river, why is Sant shri Asaram Bapu is getting in the picture, don’t you think this is unfair? ” Does children missing and escaping from hostels is something new we haven’t heard of? This issue is getting into disaster because media became so TRP focused that it cant see any thing else other than to show videos of violence and blood.

I watched his teachings and bhajans in youtube and google by typing 'asaramji bapu' and came to know that he basically teaches all nice stories of GOD from our Upanishads, scriptures and explains the moral behind it and many Listeners of his satsang whom I know, who used to drink alcohol,smoking left their habits,with his words he takes way all bad habits.

when I watched his satsang and meditation videos in www.ashram.org and www.hariomgroup.org , I get divine bliss and feel very happy and cheerful. We can say how he changed lives of millions of people by seeing his biography


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6775430434064466853
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8560725509256331841
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4607757776458957130

I also happened to see this video too

Some famous leaders veiws about Sant Shri Asaram Bapu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6552877004580793632&hl=en

Recently after following him,my life as changed completely, wherever I go find success peace,happiness and lot of discipline in life. I am not going for any blind faith. If we listen to him you will realize that how beautiful life will change ..there are lakhs of software engineers and doctors who are following him, I don't think they are all having blind faith. We educated should think before taking into any conclusions about saints. If we take advantage on how he teaches yogic techniques on how to improve memory,concentration, pranayam , health remedies naturally, living healthy mentally and physically and how he teaches greatness of celibacy in life for the youth and how he helped them not to become prey to diseases , which we would never know in this kind of generation, It is benefit for us right? Satsangs happening in different places in India doesn't charge a rupee from anyone who attend it. Just think about it. Ashram's and Asaram Bapu's aim to reinstate our old culture of India which we are about to lose in India.

I happened to see that there are many social activities done by ashram listed here for the past 30 yrs which media failed to bring limelight on

http://ashram.org/presentation/servicetohumankind.ppt

Please wait for the real truth to come out, whatever media is now talking ill will come very soon with the apologies and the real truth . If you haven’t heard already, there are now apologies coming up from many news papers for all these false allegations.But weshould always remember that only truth (Satyameva Jayati)prevails.

Some newspapers also shown the real facts like this http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=138192 ?

We should be careful and not talk bad about saints because it is said in our many scriptures that it is blaming a saint is the biggest sin that a human can do and Even God cannot forgive them.

In “GuruGita” Lord Shiva says to Goddess Parvati that
“A Saint can save an individual from the God’s anger but God cannot save from Saint's anger.”

And also Guru Nanak Dev has said in Guru Granth Sahib,

Sant ka nindak maha hatyaara,
Sant ka nindak Parmeshwar maara
Sant ke nindak ki bujhey na aash,
Nanak Sant ka nindak sadaa niraash...

Sant sataaye teeno jaaye Tej ,Bal aur Vansh

Hope you understood my views. If there are any questions , please mail at
hariombooks@gmail.com, I will help you understand.

Regards.
Sukeshini

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It’s really disgraceful incident happened in Ahmedabad.

As everybody knows there are many cases has been filed against Asaram and his Ashram.

Should we people still believed in these ‘Bapu’ , ‘Swami’ and ‘Sant’ ??



-Taker

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Real facts Video of what happened in Amhedabad Ashram :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4299973905946223283&hl=en

Sukeshini,

If you believe in god than Asaram, may be you get more peace and success. Your wife could have changed more better. Asaram is not a god. though his son says GOD to himself and stays with Girls all the time.

Asaram gor practiced to speak sweet all the time and repeatedly, so you might feel good after listening him. Listen to any guru, you will feel same.

Do you know He made some YANTRA and send it to children family to get them back. This is a tantrik vidya and to cause delays in police enquiry to get cleanchit.

He he do not take care of childrens, why he earning money from their parents?

Because people behaved bad with Buddha..Kabir…Nanak ..Vashishth, All the saints are good?

Now Asaram's son also making career from his father's university. MOney should not go outside from his own home.

Saints says what written in Gita and Purans. Listen from anybody is same thing. Why from fake Asaram?

I hope you know distance between god and saints. Jai Ramji ki.....

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/180-disciples-of-Asaram-Bapu-arrested-for-attacking-police/articleshow/5272343.cms

This is what he teaches?? To attack the law enforcers??

Few weeks ago, there was an article about how his sons (also swamis) have encroached a huge amount of land.

my sincere advise to everybody is to keep away from such stupid sadhu,sants and asaram,amritanandmayi etc. you go to such people when you are depressed,unhappy and facing bad period in life. Such people are blood suckers and destroy you by using your weakness.

Let me tell you about an incident in my neighbourhood. The lady was well off and had her own money and property. The lady was very happily married with 2 small kids and one day she went to amritanandamayi pravachan and in next 3-4 months time, the lady committed suicide and left all her property to amritanandamayi ashram.

the other day I went for such pooja of hare rama hare krishna and the lady over there also told us that, we should donate all our properties to good cause and that is to them and not to our children, who will misuse by drinking etc.

I hope you all got my message. If anybody is unhappy or depressed, it is in their hand to get out of such moods and not with sadhu and sants. Only two things helps that is hardworking and keep ourselves busy always. These two things will never allow us to go into depression etc.

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............Let me tell you about an incident in my neighbourhood. The lady was well off and had her own money and property. The lady was very happily married with 2 small kids and one day she went to amritanandamayi pravachan and in next 3-4 months time, the lady committed suicide and left all her property to amritanandamayi ashram.

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