What are the advantages/disadvantages of having a baby in Canada?
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We have recently arrived in Canada and our OHIP has just started. However, we donot have any relatives over here, and therefore getting the emotional support from someone close is not possible over here. Also, the health support system over here really sucks, and complications during childbirth (if any) may not be handled too well over here (that's what I feel!!).
What are the advantages/disadvantages of having a baby in Canada?
To have the first child, is it advisable to go to India and then later sponsor the child?
How long does it take to sponsor a child from there, and what are the formalities involved?
I understand that a child born here becomes a citizen from day one, but are there any additional benefits that the child receive in contrast to the child that is born in India, and is sponsored into this country by its PR parents??
It would be great if someone who has gone through this phase can shed some light about the merits/demerits.
Thanks
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sumjo
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Hi
We have recently arrived in Canada and our OHIP has just started. However, we donot have any relatives over here, and therefore getting the emotional support from someone close is not possible over here. Also, the health support system over here really sucks, and complications during childbirth (if any) may not be handled too well over here (that's what I feel!!).
I've had 2 kids here...one born in Montreal and the first one in TO. I did not have any problems with the health care system at that time, infact we had a really good experiences both times.
We did not have any complications so dont know about that.
If the couple support each other things should be ok. There are pre natal classes you can get involved in. Ofcourse it helps if you can have someone like mom/inlaw here to help, right after the delivery.
I dont think there are many disadvantages to having a baby in India(if you can afford good medical care) vs Canada.
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Also, the health support system over here really sucks, and complications during childbirth (if any) may not be handled too well over here (that's what I feel!!.
My wife and I had a baby recently (delivered at Trillium in Miss.) and from our experiences your quote could not be further from the truth. There were no major complications thankfully, so can't comment on that. But all the staff was quite helpful and some of the nurses were nothing short of wonderful.
Right from the start of the pregnancy to child-birth, both my wife and I found the support structure here to be extremely good. There are quite a few pre-birth resources / classes available that help gear you for the months leading to and post delivery.
Also, we were fortunate enough to have my Mother in law here very close to the delivery date, so it made things that much smoother. Without her, the apprehensions of first-time parenthood would've been much more difficult to manage, however it would not have been unmanageable, I feel.
Again, I'm not advising you one way or the other. Having a first baby is probably one of the best experiences of life so you should make the choice you're most comfortable with. But just so you know, our experience with the health-care here hasn't been bad at all.
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Orginally posted by sumjo
Hi
We have recently arrived in Canada and our OHIP has just started. However, we donot have any relatives over here, and therefore getting the emotional support from someone close is not possible over here. Also, the health support system over here really sucks, and complications during childbirth (if any) may not be handled too well over here (that's what I feel!!).
What are the advantages/disadvantages of having a baby in Canada?
To have the first child, is it advisable to go to India and then later sponsor the child?
How long does it take to sponsor a child from there, and what are the formalities involved?
I understand that a child born here becomes a citizen from day one, but are there any additional benefits that the child receive in contrast to the child that is born in India, and is sponsored into this country by its PR parents??
It would be great if someone who has gone through this phase can shed some light about the merits/demerits.
Thanks
We just had a baby born to us in the US. According to me, you should have the baby in Canada for two reasons
1. Canadian Citizenship - It'll save you from having to sponsor the baby and paying additional fees etc.
2. Medical Expenses - Since your OHIP has already started, you might as well make use of it.
I agree that having family support is important. You can always have somebody from India come to Canada to help with the delivery. Also, if you want to take the baby to India, you can do so as soon as possible after birth.
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Hi Sumjo,
Are you there? The feedback already on the thread seems more than adequate.
Still my opinion is as under:
<We have recently arrived in Canada and our OHIP has just started. >
That is a good point and helps decision.
<However, we donot have any relatives over here, and therefore getting the emotional support from someone close is not possible over here. >
It depends on how much emotional support you need. Delivery is a technical issue and handled by doctors and midwives/nurses. Relatives cannot help in that. They will not be allowed in labor room/operation theatre.
The only difficult part comes when you get discharged from hospital and you have to care for baby. It is full time job for one person, maybe slightly more 
.
<Also, the health support system over here really sucks, and complications during childbirth (if any) may not be handled too well over here (that's what I feel!!).>
Delivery is a natural process and only requires care and support. Do not think of complications unless you want to invite them. Any reasonably good hospital with a good Obstetrician, Pediatrician and Anaesthetist would be able to handle any delivery any where in world. Being in Canada is not a handicap. Do not worry too much on that count.
<What are the advantages/disadvantages of having a baby in Canada?>
Advantages:
1. Medical facilities as good as in India.
2. Less paperwork.
Disadvantages:
1. Lack of emotional support.
2. You will have to rough it out (caring for baby, that is). But it will also lead to growth and maturity and better bonding with baby. Baby will become a confident happy adult.
Suggestion:
You can seek support from desi friends. A couple of hours every day for first few weeks or so would let the mother rest/change/organise house/get centred/have social interaction.
<To have the first child, is it advisable to go to India and then later sponsor the child? >
1. Medically the two options are equal.
2. Paperwork is more if you go to India, but then it is only paperwork, and it gets done if you put in some umpteen hours.
3. In Canada paperwork is less, parenting is more.
<How long does it take to sponsor a child from there, and what are the formalities involved?>
1. Getting birth certificate 2 days to 1 week.
2. Getting passport made 1- 2 months under Tatkal scheme
3. Sponsoring and processing realted papers/application filing/CIC processing/medical/stamping/travel - about 6 months or more.
It may be logistically more difficult depending upon your situation and whether you need to work in Canada and what family support you have in India.
<I understand that a child born here becomes a citizen from day one, >
Yes.
<but are there any additional benefits that the child receive in contrast to the child that is born in India, and is sponsored into this country by its PR parents??>
Yes, Continuous care by both parents. No family disunity. Better bonding.
(I do not know about Canada, but only US born can become President of US of A.). So there is always some difference. 
<It would be great if someone who has gone through this phase can shed some light about the merits/demerits.>
One can face unforeseen problems in good and decent Indian hospitals also, despite personal care and very good doctors. (Maybe fate).
Synopsis:
If I were you, I would get the child delivered in Canada and then after getting passport made send them/accompany them to India for two months vacation/recuperation/greater family reunion, and take/call them back whenever they feel like it. No dependence on any fancy paperwork or delays resulting from some overburdened officer in immigration office.
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<However, we donot have any relatives over here, and therefore getting the emotional support from someone close is not possible over here. >
It depends on how much emotional support you need. Delivery is a technical issue and handled by doctors and midwives/nurses. Relatives cannot help in that. They will not be allowed in labor room/operation theatre.
Really? I would have thought otherwise - I have the understanding that the new concept is that the father of the child is usually encouraged to be in the delivery room to actually witness the delivery (to feel and share the pain the woman goes through and thus appreciate the whole process of child-birth). Infact, I was in the delivery room throughout my daughter's delivery - and that was more than fifteen years ago.
Chandresh
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Posted on: 04-08-05 09:08:07
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Really? I would have thought otherwise - I have the understanding that the new concept is that the father of the child is usually encouraged to be in the delivery room to actually witness the delivery (to feel and share the pain the woman goes through and thus appreciate the whole process of child-birth). Infact, I was in the delivery room throughout my daughter's delivery - and that was more than fifteen years ago.
Chandresh
I think he meant extended relatives (mother-in-law, aunt-in-law etc). Siblings and fathers are encouraged to attend the \"event\"!.
We have had 2 kids in the Toronto area. And I would not trade the system here for anything. My first born had some complications (4 weeks premature and only 3lbs). They spared no expense, time, and effort to make sure that all of us (parents included) made it through successfully. This included home visits by nurses and psych councellors daily for 2 weeks.
So my friend, I say, Go Canada.
BV
