Olympic - What is in China that India lacks


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HelloG   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-08-08 16:34:41

Talking of majority of 'junta' in India ,Middle class that is, is driven by Bollywood,Cricket, Education (that would yield a good pay packet) , TV and whatever time they have left is taken up by discussion about politics religion etc.
Liking to sports is chosen on the basis of what is in fashion and what brings money n instant fame. Talk shows bring out these topics during Olympics Asiads and then its all forgotten till next time.
Theres a lot of talent but goes unnoticed due to lack of encouragement from all quarters..parents, corporate, govt. ,schools and also due to lack of Infrastructure. There are not many clubs (except cricket) where kids can go and explore their talent. Metros are lacking in proper sports facilities for kids. If out of perseverance some kid tries to make a mark , he is to face lot of challenges with regrads to sponsors,equipments of international standards,coaching and finally Politics.
Do take out itme to read about the treatment that out Hockey team got
http://www.4to40.com/newsat4/index.asp?id=1652
http://www.hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?sectionName=&id=224d7e4d-0b09-4130-96f9-9d36a2f400f0&&Headline=Hockey+players+irked%3b+to+go+on+hunger+strike&strParent=strParentID


I agree that we should cath 'em young but who is to do this..do we have a system and people who go out scouting in streets,rural areas in India.The answer, I am afraid is NO.



pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-08-08 19:53:10

Even if Indian Govt. and corruption is responsible for our lacklustre performance in sports at the international level, I'm not sure that we should be requiring and expecting the Govt. to do anything about it.
IMO, in a country where still 30% - 40% of the population is below poverty line, major infrastructure upgrades needed, basic education and health conditions needed, the Govt. could be spening its time and resources better than investing in sports.

Sports costs money - a lot of it.
Training academies at grassroots level, good competent international coaches, infrastructure, paying atheletes for training, paying them enough to retain them long-term and rewarding them for good performance - everything costs money.

Maybe Chinese Govt. can afford all of this due to centralized, communistic economy, but a democratic and socialistic country like India cannot.
And maybe should not event attempt to do so.

That said, it doesn't mean that we should forget about sports for another 50, 100 years till we become developed like Western countries.
I think the private sector needs to get into the game a lot more.
Right now, the private sector is only interested in sponsorship and endorsement of recognized and famous sportsmen (mostly cricketers).
Maybe they need to invest more at the grass roots levels - into schools, colleges and training academies.
Also, they can have training programs for promising atheletes where atheletes get paid some respectable compensation during their training years.

All this will pay off for them eventually when those players win big at the international stage - it will take years to build up this kind of infrastructure, but there will be rewards to be reaped eventually.

If the private sector is not game for this kind of investment, I don't think it is fair to expect our govt. to spend tax payers hard earned money to win some decorative medals in sports.


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blorean   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-08-08 20:11:17

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm
I think the private sector needs to get into the game a lot more.
Right now, the private sector is only interested in sponsorship and endorsement of recognized and famous sportsmen (mostly cricketers).
Maybe they need to invest more at the grass roots levels - into schools, colleges and training academies.
Also, they can have training programs for promising atheletes where atheletes get paid some respectable compensation during their training years.

All this will pay off for them eventually when those players win big at the international stage - it will take years to build up this kind of infrastructure, but there will be rewards to be reaped eventually.

If the private sector is not game for this kind of investment, I don't think it is fair to expect our govt. to spend tax payers hard earned money to win some decorative medals in sports.



You hit the nail on the head. Where the heck is the private sector? Its not they don't have money. Do you know the salaries they are paying players who play in the IPL?

I learnt today, the US government pays each athlete that wins a gold medal $25000. That's not much. The bulk of it comes from endorsements and private sponsorships.

The Russian government pays players that win the gold medal $50,000.


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desi-friend   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-08-08 20:11:30

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm
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(IMO, in a country where still 30% - 40% of the population is below poverty line, major infrastructure upgrades needed, basic education and health conditions needed, the Govt. could be spening its time and resources better than investing in sports.+

(That said, it doesn't mean that we should forget about sports for another 50, 100 years till we become developed like Western countries.
I think the private sector needs to get into the game a lot more.
Right now, the private sector is only interested in sponsorship and endorsement of recognized and famous sportsmen (mostly cricketers).

(Also, they can have training programs for promising atheletes where atheletes get paid some respectable compensation during their training years.)

(If the private sector is not game for this kind of investment, I don't think it is fair to expect our govt. to spend tax payers hard earned money to win some decorative medals in sports.)



I fully agree that we should not expect the government of a socialist country like ours to invest too much in this field. Private sector is the only answer. Like for example it is all private money in cricket and even the governing body BCCI is an independent body.



desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-08 07:43:31

In one of the shooting events in the olympics, a guy from USA won the gold. He is a deer hunter from Texas. Silver was won by a cop from Italy.

On a bit of a side note, remember Yograj Singh, Yuvi's dad? He was a very good fast bowler. His intl career was cut short by internal politics.


dio



newton   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-08 08:13:57

If politics was a sport in the Olympics India would have won 10 gold medals......Sharad Pawar, Lalu Yadav...etc would have all won gold.



jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-08 12:11:26

did you have a look at the chinese olympic medalist gymnasts? Are they 16 and above really?


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1832312,00.html?imw=Y
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/14/underage.gymnasts/index.html?cnn=yes


The lip sync stand in at the opening ceremony and now this :p. The Chinese idea of national pride itself seems to be a contradiction.


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