How much minimum carry home Salary needed to buy home 300-325K


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kabutar12   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-01-09 10:33:51

As per the links posted by Freddie, its 25-30% of your gross salary and not after tax salary as indicated by Patrick.

correct ?



pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-01-09 11:36:56

Quote:
Originally posted by kabutar12
As per the links posted by Freddie, its 25-30% of your gross salary and not after tax salary as indicated by Patrick.
correct ?

I was being conservative rather than aggressive.
Using gross salary to calculate your expenses and debt toleration is misleading, IMO.
All home-ownership costs come out of after-tax dollars, so why will you use gross salary to calculate?
This is the kind of BS used by banks to sell large mortgages and home equity loans to people, which got everyone into the current mess.
This is all IMHO, of course.


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rahul_singh23   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-09 00:51:45

I can tell you this with honesty: If you have been thinking about selling a house, do it now. Be aggressive and realistic. If you were planning on buying one, wait. If you have cash, hang on to it. If you’ve not made your RRSP contribution, do it. If you have debt, attack it. If your mortgage is due, go variable, go weekly. If you need something, buy it, but don’t finance it. If you have a job, love it. If you’re on strike, stuff it.

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kabutar12   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-09 08:15:51

Rahul that's very nicely written and some excellent points.



kalia   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-09 09:08:54

If the formula which Pratick suggested is to followed by banks in calculating Mortgage amount then 70-80% of the borrowers would become ineligible for mortgages. So this is rightly the root cause of current mess as per Pratick.

This mess got into even a bigger and bigger mess by giving 40 years mortgage with zero down as Rahul has been saying for a long time.

Good lock and May God bless eveyone!



amit kalia   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-09 10:15:23

Quote:
Originally posted by kalia

If one has carry home salary of CAD $4500 per month net of income tax and if as per Pratick ownership related expenses should not exceed 25-30% that adds up to approx $1400. After taking out property taxes, utility bills, maintenance etc out of this leaves $800 for the mortgage.

Considering the current mortgage rate, $800 may be good for a loan of $160-170K and add 10% down if one has, so one can afford up to $180-190k home.

And do not think there is one available even at that price in Toronto under current down market. Additionally that One draws $75-80 K p.a gross in order to have carry home income $4500 p.m.

This leaves one to draw conclusion that to buy a home of $300-325K, one should have a carry home salary of $6000 to 6500 p.m. and gross of 100-125K p.a.

Can someone confirm?

Thanks



You are right on the mark. I agree that the banks are too liberal when it comes to qualifying buyers, based on their gross incomes' GDS/TDS ratios.

It makes all the sense in the world to look at one's nett income when performing 30%-40% affordability test.

In you case it works out as follows:

($4,500X12)/30%=$180,000 (mortgage; bank's loan)+ $20,000 (down payment; your own money)= $200,000 home is what you should look at.

This should leave you with condo apartments as one of the options to look at.

For other home buying expenses visit: http://www.realestate-ontario.com/homebuyingexpenses.htm

Good luck!


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chittesh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-09 12:35:20

Quote:
Originally posted by kalia

If one has carry home salary of CAD $4500 per month net of income tax and if as per Pratick ownership related expenses should not exceed 25-30% that adds up to approx $1400. After taking out property taxes, utility bills, maintenance etc out of this leaves $800 for the mortgage. Considering the current mortgage rate, $800 may be good for a loan of $160-170K and add 10% down if one has, so one can afford up to $180-190k home. And do not think there is one available even at that price in Toronto under current down market. Additionally that One draws $75-80 K p.a gross in order to have carry home income $4500 p.m.

This leaves one to draw conclusion that to buy a home of $300-325K, one should have a carry home salary of $6000 to 6500 p.m. and gross of 100-125K p.a.

Can someone confirm?

Thanks



Completely agree to this calculation.


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