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vagg   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 16:30:18

Have children or be Islamised, Europe told

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Have+children+Islamised+Europe+told/3490733/story.html

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By Simon Caldwell, The Daily Telegraph September 7, 2010 2:03 PM

European Christians must have more children or face the prospect of the Continent becoming Islamised, a senior Vatican official has said.


Fr Piero Gheddo, an Italian, said that the low birth rate among indigenous Europeans combined with an unprecedented wave of Muslim immigrants with large families could see Europe becoming dominated by Islam in the space of a few generations. "The challenge must be taken seriously," said Fr Gheddo, of the Vatican's Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions.


"Certainly from a demographic point of view, as it is clear to everyone that Italians are decreasing by 120,000 or 130,000 persons a year because of abortion and broken families - while among the more than 200,000 legal immigrants a year in Italy, more than half are Muslims and Muslim families, which have a much higher level of growth. Newspapers and television programs never speak of this.


"However, an answer must be given above all in the religious and cultural fields and in the area of identity."


He predicted that Islam would "sooner rather than later conquer the majority in Europe".


"The fact is that, as a people, we are becoming ever more pagan and the religious vacuum is inevitably filled by other proposals and religious forces," he said. Fr Gheddo said that Christians who lapsed were also making themselves vulnerable to attacks by secularists.


He said that when "religious practice diminishes in Christian Europe and indifference spreads, Christianity and the Church are attacked".


"If we consider ourselves a Christian country, we should return to the practice of Christian life, which would also solve the problem of empty cradles," he added.


The comments of Fr Gheddo come just months after a Czech cardinal also blamed lapsed Catholics for the Islamisation of Europe.


On his retirement as the Archbishop of Prague earlier this year, Cardinal Miloslav Vlk said that Muslims were well placed to fill the spiritual void "created as Europeans systematically empty the Christian content of their lives".


He said that unless Christians woke up to the threat to their culture they would soon find they no longer had the strength to make their mark on society. He called on Christians to respond to the threat of Islamisation by living their own religious faith more observantly.


Although many European Catholic bishops defend the rights of Muslims to worship publicly, others are more keen to protect the Christian heritage of their continent.


Last year Cardinal Jose Policarpo, the Patriarch of Lisbon, warned Catholic women against marrying Muslims.


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Muslims in Europe


Europe's Muslim population of 2.4 per cent has doubled in the past 30 years and is predicted to double again by 2015.


The number of Muslims in Europe in 2007 was 53 million, including 16 million in the EU, according to the German Central Institute Islam Archive.


Muslims will account for more than 20 per cent of the EU population by 2050, according to the U.S.'s Migration Policy Institute.


Mohammed is expected to be the most popular boy's name in England and Wales when figures are released by the Office for National Statistics in October.


Official figures last year found that the Muslim population in Britain had grown by more than 500,000 to 2.4 million in four years.

© Copyright (c) The Daily Telegraph



Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 16:42:08

Sirji,

You are talking about what is happening in Europa .

Did you any chance see what happened in South of Kanata.

Glen Beck of Fox News had his rally at the exact same location of MLK at Lincoln memorial.

He had all White folks at his rally and his aim was to get back to White-Christian US of A.

http://www.glennbeck.com/828/

This was a reverse Civil Rights (White) rally to be seen in the open.

It would have been called KKK if Obama was not the president.

Wait for November 2010 - Midterm elections. You'll see a wipe out of most of the Democrats and you'll see the conservative middle class White Christians reinforcing their votes to save themselves under the guise of tea party movement.

What is the fall out of all this ?.

Answer: Sarah Palin in 2012.

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What is happening in Kanata?.

Uncle Harper is closeting himself with Murdoch and a FOX style news channel has emerged.

U'll see similar collection of like minded Albertans, Nufy's and other predominantly white states to counter the IMMIGRANT supported Liberals under IGGY- who is going nowhere.


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vagg   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 18:04:27

Islamisation of West would be worst nightmare come true. Let me guess if that happens then what would be the outcome of that:

-religion, religion everywhere
-life under constant fear
-no more new discoveries/inventions
-summer would be no more fun as all the hotties will be in burqas (OMG!!)
-systems start falling apart
-total chaos and eventually total collapse

I am just guessing by what is happening or has happened in most Islamic countries.



morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 18:14:16

I would take this article with a grain of salt. The CATHOLIC vatican which traditionally frowns upon any type of birth control is teling Europeans to 'rise to the challenge'? What challenge, this is the natural course of evolution which has arisen due to technological and cultural shifts away from the family structure, which includes the necessary having of children to individual pursuits, not necessarily related to the propogation of the species.

Its interesting that the catholic church does not address the issue of environmental damage..perhaps they plan to build churches on the moon or Mars, eventually when the increase in human population destroys the planet, though luckily it wont be in our lifetimes.

I say this because they are encouraging the west to 'hurry up and populate!", however if you read between the lines they are asking 'white, middle class and above anglosaxans to reproduce', not you or I.

The article also chastises that secularism is the downfall of the western 'culture (they mean the christian religion though) and that there is a 'vacuum' in morality which the Islamic extremists would only be too happy to fulfil.


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meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 11:52:56

Quote:
Originally posted by vagg



"The fact is that, as a people, we are becoming ever more pagan and the religious vacuum is inevitably filled by other proposals and religious forces," he said. Fr Gheddo said that Christians who lapsed were also making themselves vulnerable to attacks by secularists.


He said that when "religious practice diminishes in Christian Europe and indifference spreads, Christianity and the Church are attacked".


"If we consider ourselves a Christian country, we should return to the practice of Christian life, which would also solve the problem of empty cradles," he added.





This sounds more like hate mongering than real news. Similar concern is continuously raised in India where they predict that Muslim population will ultimately overtake the Hindi population.

I do not think any of the European countries are "Christian". Most of them are democracies which has a clear segregation of state and religion.

I do not understand the mindset of American right wing fanatic. Why do they confuse Christianity with American pride/nationalism? I think American was founded on basis of democratic principles. However, it seems the right wing Christian group has hijacked the concept of being American.

Ultimately, IMO, Darwin's law of survival of fittest will prevail. The well educated class will survive and prosper.



DesiBabu70   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 13:07:24

Quote:
Originally posted by meghal
Ultimately, IMO, Darwin's law of survival of fittest will prevail. The well educated class will survive and prosper.

actually, it is a survival of the fittest law that is causing this.
if you think about it, the roman catholic church's warning is coming too late.
it is already too late to stop this process.
they should have thought about this 30 years ago when they allowed immigration from north africa and other islamic countries.

it is the instinct of every race to protect its like.
that what the catholic white caucasians are trying to do.
they have every right to do so.
but i think they have missed the boat.



luckysaab   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 17:01:05

This is useless warning. Successful people(including muslims) tend to have fewer kids - it's a reality that can't be changed. A white man won't make a decision to have five kids because muslims will \"conquer\" Europe whatever that means.

»luckysaab«


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