Why Lock AAP related threads ?


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-14 12:05:56

As a person who has devoted quite a bit of time to this forum and for whom CD has become an inseparable part for more than 10 years ( and possibly which gives me the courage to write my thoughts below ) , I wish to share my thoughts, knowing they may not have any impact on the outcome ..

If that was so that it was just promotion and publicity , how come the other senior members on this thread ( who are well concerned and are a well part of CD ) did not feel so.

I abide with the anti promotion policy and have myself requested it to be enforced from time to time including in the case of Rajeev Narula / Amit Kalia where the mods did not enforce it citing them as exceptions.

However a general exception to the promotion rule is that we do post and discuss things / businesses which we feel will benefit other members / good to know by others w/o any direct interest . In the AAP threads , they may have been started with a purpose but they did not pick up steam only because of that ..AAP is a phenomenon today which is being discussed every where and CD is no exception with mostly Indians on the forum. A thread dies by itself if people do not discuss it .

Because this topped for 3 months indicates that this is a hot topic which people wish to discuss .

One good thing of having centralized thread was - the board was not scattered with AAP related threads otherwise there could be 10 in number topping in stead of 1 or 2 .

Because of these threads other topics are being side lined also does not appear to be true ..Other threads are being posted and responded to for eg the internet and the TV thread which I participated off late ...

People come to CD to discuss what they wish to and the discussions are fuelled by demand .... moderating against the demand of CDs is undemocratic ..

These threads were not all promotional but debates as well if you read Nightmare's and Surti's post also .... They may have started as promotional but were not continuing that way .. or so it appeared ...... that s why concerned and frequent senior posters on this forum voiced their opposition .

Maybe we have a difference of opinion but we are all entitled to ours .


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BlueLobster   
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-14 01:54:36

GG - Thanks for the detailed explanation, this certainly helps. I can completely appreciate that you are trying to steer the forum towards more Canadian topics. Plus, you are spot on that there should be no advertising on the site, even for a political party (and in that sense, agree with the name change).

That said, it is election year in India and all of us are interested in it for one reason or the other. If a thread is getting a lot of replies and staying on top for a long time, it just indicates that many folks are interested in it. I had a quick look at the thread and I think both AAP supporters and opposition were making their points vigorously. And except for maybe a couple of members, people did not resort to name calling or personal attacks.

My advice here would be to do the following instead of locking the thread
1. Do not show it as a top topic on main page after a certain period of time.
2. Warn people who are resorting to personal attacks and name calling. If this does not change, then put restrictions on their posting. This way, the discussion stays healthy.

Just my two cents - in any case, kudos the mods and yourself for running the site so well.



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Garvo Gujarati   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-14 09:59:53



Thanks FIDO and BL for your point of views. FIDO brought an excellent point with having multiple threads related to politics in India could defeat the purpose as all of them can top the list. I really have to think about how to mitigate that risk.

BL, yes we are so connected to India and this General Election is going to be very high decible contest between the rulling party and the oppostion party with some strong tadka from the AAP that it would be hard to resist the need to discuss it. So hundred percent agree with your point.

To avoid the issue of Indian Politics Related topics coming on top on a regular bases, I have to think about something.

The other points are valid and we are definately trying to moderate the board accordingly.

Thanks.


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Gurram   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 1002
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-14 10:16:06

Thank you GG for detailed post.
It is TRUE ... we all should try to be more on Canadian issues even though it is difficult to avoid issues back at our second homes that were primary once.



puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-01-14 00:29:00

I personally am not a supporter of Aam adami party (and i believe it will die a natural death of its own making) , but this action by mods is shamefull.


Quote:
Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati


To recap -

- Our primary focus is Canada.
- No direct promotion of political parties
- If threads are dragged beyound a limit they could be locked


Thanks very much again, and hoping to get the support from all of you!

Regards,

GG



Shameful explanation for a shameful act ....

- Primary focus is Canada , then why do you have the forum called "Our Native Country"

- No direct promotion of political party ..... unless it is Narender Modi http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=32677&page=1

- Threads longer than 20 posts that died a natural death ... http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=18728&page=1



Nightmare   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 1170
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-01-14 01:31:46

Quote:
Originally posted by puttoo

I personally am not a supporter of Aam adami party (and i believe it will die a natural death of its own making) , but this action by mods is shamefull.


Quote:
Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati


To recap -

- Our primary focus is Canada.
- No direct promotion of political parties
- If threads are dragged beyound a limit they could be locked


Thanks very much again, and hoping to get the support from all of you!

Regards,

GG



Shameful explanation for a shameful act ....

- Primary focus is Canada , then why do you have the forum called "Our Native Country"

- No direct promotion of political party ..... unless it is Narender Modi http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=32677&page=1

- Threads longer than 20 posts that died a natural death ... http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=18728&page=1




Lol! Typical brainless rant by Kangress sttoge.

1) Our native country is ONE of the threads. There are many more but due to surcharged election atmosphere and unprecedented loot, corruption and absolute shameless lack of governance by Kangress has made “our Native Country” thread popular. Puttoo Ji should read and post only on Culinary Delights thread only.
2) GG has very succinctly explained the difference between discussion and promotion. One may or may not agree to GG’s interpretation.
I was enjoying the discussion and wish that it should not be locked but I am not running this site and I respect GG’s decision and prerogatives.
Puttoo ji should appeal to their master Kangress to donate a small portion out of millions it spends on Media and promote a blog praising and promoting Kangress.
3) GG has stated that a thread beyond a reasonable limit be locked – not just 20 posts.

Puttooji was ridiculed in past for his steadfast support of Kangress and I suspect that he was posting under a different avatar. Now, to counter , he has raised the old ghost of Puttoo. Get lost man.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-01-14 16:14:50

Quote:
Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati

To avoid the issue of Indian Politics Related topics coming on top on a regular bases, I have to think about something.


Thanks.



How about creating a new section for Politics and putting the sort order on that section to descending .. This way threads belonging to that section will not top the list .


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