Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 12-11-04 16:59:19
And god said, let there be light...and Lo! Behold, there was light !
As someone pointed out before...if "GOD" really exists, why is there injustice...why 90% folks here are cribbing and why 10% folks are only successful...
Manasvi bhai...yeh Salim-Javed ka dialogue lag raha hai mujhe 
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Since I'm not aware, how do atheists explain creation (of the universe i.e.)?
From
http://www.positiveatheist.com/ThisSite/faq-explain.shtml
Can you explain the existence of the universe?
Currently the Big Bang theory is quite popular, along with several side-issues which have yet to have been resolved. However, we can never truly know, since none of us were present at the time. "I don't know" is a scientifically acceptable answer. Sometimes we simply cannot know all the answers.
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The Cynic
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
I believe in evolution, however it does not explain the creation of the universe.
I think the need to believe in a power above all stems from the inability to accept the universe as arbitrary. The universe must have been created at some point in time. And since it was created, there must have been a source of creation. The big question then is how the source was created, and that leads to questions about the source of the source of the source....i.e. unbreakable recursion. I think God is an assumption that helps break this recursion. Since God is an assumption of ever-persistence, we can then then draw subsequent theories about creation. Religion, beliefs and rituals are a human-output to this pattern of thinking.
I do wonder sometimes if figuring all this out is pretty simple yet we fail miserably as humans since our brain simply does not have the faculties to deduct this. Maybe the answer lies in dimension we do not know exist. And I wonder if this is the reason so many sages in ancient India quit everything else to meditate, maybe this was a way to open those faculties of the brain. And maybe that's why once you do get some answers, it is impossible to explain it to others.
All maybes.
Since I'm not aware, how do atheists explain creation (of the universe i.e.)?
Serious study of science started only about 200 years ago. In such a short span of time the progress is remarkable. It is possible that in future man may understand the true nature of Nature. It is also possible that man may never be able to comprehend the whole Truth. We have to wait and see.
Coming to the riddle of creator, my counter question is if there is a creator then what is the big plan behind all this creation? Why we were created? Assume for a moment that there is no life on earth. Will it make any difference to the universe? None at all.
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Man's Best Friend 
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Orginally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
And god said, let there be light...and Lo! Behold, there was light !
As someone pointed out before...if "GOD" really exists, why is there injustice...why 90% folks here are cribbing and why 10% folks are only successful...
Manasvi bhai...yeh Salim-Javed ka dialogue lag raha hai mujhe
Hi O_N bhai, .doc se .pdf conversion ho gaya kya?
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Man's Best Friend
Does the answer lie in acknowledging our limitations of not understanding the space time continuum.?
How can we , mere mortal humans, whose life span is less than a second when compared with the age of the universe, ever find out the truth behind the formation of universe and creation on the whole.
In whatever little readings I could do to end my intrigue with the question of creation, I found the most satisfying conclusion in Dr Stephen Hawking's book...."a brief history of time "....it left me with more questions than answers but i understood one thing for good ...That we as humans , a subject of space and time , do not have the capacity to understand the creation of "space and time" , unless we break away from the shackels of space and time .
In his book he takes us to the happennings of first second and subsequesnt seconds immediately after the big bang, based on proven mathematical functions.
The big bang , the starting point of "time" and "space" as we know it started from a miniscule sub atomic scale to the ever growing scale of the universe today. But een the best explanations of big bang, does not tell us anything about "time and space" before and outside our time scale. We read about stars and galaxies billions of light years away but where does it end , what are the boundaries of our universe?
When will time ever end, when did time start ? If time and space started with big bang, then what was there before it, and what are the outer limits?.....Can we humans, who know everything with its beginning and end with set boundaries ever understand a continuum which has not limits ?
What ever the answer is , one thing is for sure, that our existance is equal to less than a mere spec of dust, and exists for less than a microsecond , when compared with the larger universe of which we are a part.
In this large scale if now we look at our world around us, all of us are different yet of one race one species, among millions of other species who live an orderly life, in an orderly structure....isint it absolutely exhilirating to think what a chance we have to live the life that we got, however short it maybe ?
Isint it unfortunate that despite the great opportunity of life that we have , people waste in fighting over different beliefs.
having written this, i feel like listening to "what a wonderful world " by louis armstrong "
WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD
I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' "How do you do?"
They're really saying "I love you"
I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Oh yeah
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