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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-07 10:50:48

Yelloknife,
My dad was a veterinary doctor and from that experience I can tell you all about animals.
So many times, when my dad used to treat cows, the cows tried to injure/ kill my dad. Once his watch was broken by the cows horns and the next time, a cow stomped at his feet, fracturing his ankle. I know from his experience and knoledge, that animals canot be compared to humans or human life.
So many Dogs have attacked him while he was treating them too. Animals (in most cases) donot understand the differences between enemy and friends.
Hope i have made myself a bit more clearer.
TK A


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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-07 11:30:44

This is indeed another bizarre discussion and I am happy to jump in the fray :)

It is a well known documented fact that financial management is not a strong point of most Canadians and Americans. Linking financial mgmt to lot of pets and expenses may not make too much sense as there are bigger issues involving savings rate and debt rate.

As said by other posters pets have a different concept here as opposed to India. I have two cats and I just spent $1000 on one of them since he (yes, "he" and not a "it";) couldn't pee and had to be hospitalised. Of course I also heard a suggestion that he could have been put down and I could have saved $1000. There are different perspectives and I chose to spend the money on him. So, there you go, you just found another nutcase !!;)

In the matter of cows trying to kill the doc, cows or any other animals don't understand the higher purpose of the doctors. All they see is someone doing something they are not enjoying and hence react. That is why certain safeguards are established. Dogs get tethered when groomed, cats get anesthetized when inserting catheter up their who knows what, and so on.

Have you ever pushed a pill down a cat's throat? If you don't watch it, you will come out defeated and bloody. So I can either act ignorant and declare my own beloved cat is acting on revenge and trying to claw me to death or use some commonsense and wrap him inside a towel so his claws are not exposed while administering drugs.

It's the attitude towards animals that define the individuals' perceptions.


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guptamik   
Member since: Mar 05
Posts: 277
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-07 11:50:52

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

This is indeed another bizarre discussion and I am happy to jump in the fray :)

It is a well known documented fact that financial management is not a strong point of most Canadians and Americans. Linking financial mgmt to lot of pets and expenses may not make too much sense as there are bigger issues involving savings rate and debt rate.

As said by other posters pets have a different concept here as opposed to India. I have two cats and I just spent $1000 on one of them since he (yes, "he" and not a "it";) couldn't pee and had to be hospitalised. Of course I also heard a suggestion that he could have been put down and I could have saved $1000. There are different perspectives and I chose to spend the money on him. So, there you go, you just found another nutcase !!;)

In the matter of cows trying to kill the doc, cows or any other animals don't understand the higher purpose of the doctors. All they see is someone doing something they are not enjoying and hence react. That is why certain safeguards are established. Dogs get tethered when groomed, cats get anesthetized when inserting catheter up their who knows what, and so on.

Have you ever pushed a pill down a cat's throat? If you don't watch it, you will come out defeated and bloody. So I can either act ignorant and declare my own beloved cat is acting on revenge and trying to claw me to death or use some commonsense and wrap him inside a towel so his claws are not exposed while administering drugs.

It's the attitude towards animals that define the individuals' perceptions.




Dimple,

I agree with you on ALL accounts here but would like to discuss your point regarding Financial Management. As Indians ( I will not speak on behalf of all Indians but I think this is true) we feel that financial management is all about earn a lot and save a lot! While I agree with that, I also admire the Americans and Canadians sense of work hard and play HARDER! We have one life to live and I think that we as humans should find a middle ground between these two financial management philosophies so that we don't get to be old and gray and wonder.. what did i really do in my life... ofcourse this will lead to the discussion of what is considered tasteful spending and when is the line crossed over to wasteful spending.. no one can answer that because it's again relative... spending 1000 dollars to keep a CAT alive is wasteful for one and yet it may be the best 1000 dollars spent by another ;) Sorry that i digressed but finally I did have a point :p

How is your kitty doing now Dimple?

TK: Like everyone said.. when it comes to perceptions, they are all subjective so instead of looking for an answer on CD for this one, i'd suggest look within ur self!



dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-07 12:23:59

Quote:
Originally posted by guptamik

Dimple,

I agree with you on ALL accounts here but would like to discuss your point regarding Financial Management. As Indians ( I will not speak on behalf of all Indians but I think this is true) we feel that financial management is all about earn a lot and save a lot! While I agree with that, I also admire the Americans and Canadians sense of work hard and play HARDER! We have one life to live and I think that we as humans should find a middle ground between these two financial management philosophies so that we don't get to be old and gray and wonder.. what did i really do in my life... ofcourse this will lead to the discussion of what is considered tasteful spending and when is the line crossed over to wasteful spending.. no one can answer that because it's again relative... spending 1000 dollars to keep a CAT alive is wasteful for one and yet it may be the best 1000 dollars spent by another ;) Sorry that i digressed but finally I did have a point :p

How is your kitty doing now Dimple?




I agree. Besides, if everyone went about saving everything and not spending, we can't have a churning economy...:)

My cat Dots is doing fine so far. He is still on a prescription diet, yeah, that's another money guzzler :D

Dimple is my other cat, the female...


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guptamik   
Member since: Mar 05
Posts: 277
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-07 12:47:39

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Yelloknife,
My dad was a veterinary doctor and from that experience I can tell you all about animals.
So many times, when my dad used to treat cows, the cows tried to injure/ kill my dad. Once his watch was broken by the cows horns and the next time, a cow stomped at his feet, fracturing his ankle. I know from his experience and knoledge, that animals canot be compared to humans or human life.
So many Dogs have attacked him while he was treating them too. Animals (in most cases) donot understand the differences between enemy and friends.
Hope i have made myself a bit more clearer.
TK A



TK,

Often times even humans in a condition of pain and suffering especially in old age tend to get aggressive. That doesn' mean they don't understand the difference between friends and enemies. It's just that in the case of Animals, they can't speak to they react and in this reaction process end up causing some damage. what surprises me is that your father is a VET and you still had the question today? Perhaps he's the best person u shud seek an answer from too eh?



Nikhil   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 163
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-07 09:30:43

TK,

A woman will love a man only for his looks or money:p The love that you get from a pet is true love :) A white pussycat with green eyes will still love you and doesn’t care if you are white or brown, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, intelligent or dumb.

Nikhil



Charlie   
Member since: Apr 05
Posts: 538
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-07 09:45:19

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Animals (in most cases) don't understand the differences between enemy and friends.



TK, you know nothing about animals. Ask your dad about it, a person spend his life close to animals won't comment like you for sure. Animals read your eyes and face expression. They will read on your face, you love them or hate. I had 3 dogs at my house in India. Now I have a cat here in Canada. All of them can differentiate between my animal lover friends and your likes.
Animal lovers will agree with me, animals do have sometime like a nice day and a bad day similar to elderly people we have at our home. Being with those elder is not a nut case then why would a life with animals be a nut case.


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