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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-05-09 17:31:31

Quote:
Originally posted by investpro
Personally I doubt the o/n rate will go down any farther than 0.25%, which leaves the banks to reduce their margins, which is a possibilty being bandied as for more than a decade the spread was 1.75% until a year or so ago.

For spreads to go down that low, banks will have to further reduce their savings, deposits and GIC rates.
That would make cash savings effectively earn 0 or even less in real terms.
Essentially that means no one can save money.


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DesiGuy1981   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-05-09 20:26:15

Quote:
Originally posted by investpro

Hi desiguy1981

Did the lady say on what basis the prime rates will go down?

Right now, the overnight rate is 0.25% and the current spread is 2% above for prime i.e at 2.25%

If the prime rate goes down further, it means that either the banks will go back to their spread a year earlier of 1.75% or that the overnight rate goes to 0%, or a combination of both.

Personally I doubt the o/n rate will go down any farther than 0.25%, which leaves the banks to reduce their margins, which is a possibilty being bandied as for more than a decade the spread was 1.75% until a year or so ago.

Nonetheless, do let me know what the lady says.

Mortgage rates might go down even more though.



wat she said was if the prime rate goes down a littel more, she wud give me a better rate..
so she suggested me that i shud wait..but if it doesnt i shudnt go yell at her..
shes a good lady...we been delaing with her for 5 years..she helped me alot getting the mortage 3 and half yrs ago..



DesiGuy1981   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-05-09 20:31:50

Quote:
Originally posted by vikshr

Quote:
Originally posted by DesiGuy1981

so i went to td bank today..talked to the lady we deal with..she told me 3.28% with no penalty for 5 years fix rate or if i want 3% she wud charge me penalty of $2500..
and she even said i shud wait for couple of weeks..the primerate shud go down even further...
can sum1 tell me if i shud wait or shud go ahead with this rate...
again my renewal is in jan 2010.
thanx









Great job !!
3.28% without penalty is the one I would go with....

As for prime rate coming further down, not sure... if at all it comes down on Jun 4th, not sure if mortgages rates will come down too.... appreciate if experts can provide their views and market expectations...






thanx
but i m littel confuse..dont knw if i shud go with it or i shud wait..
3.28 dont look bad to me..
i asked her if she cud to 3.15
and she said she cudnt..
oh and one more question?
which one is better..3 years or 5 years
she told me that 3.28 rate was for 5 years
but i have a feeling i can get her to do it for 3 years
but want to knw...which is good..3 or 5?
thanx



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-05-09 20:58:58

Between 3.28 vs 3.15 you are really splitting hairs.
You have to decide how far you wanna push your agent - don't spoil the relationship.
As for 3 yrs. vs 5 yrs. I personally would pick 5.


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DesiGuy1981   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-05-09 23:01:01

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Between 3.28 vs 3.15 you are really splitting hairs.
You have to decide how far you wanna push your agent - don't spoil the relationship.
As for 3 yrs. vs 5 yrs. I personally would pick 5.


Thanx pratick..
so shud i go ahead?
or wait for a bit?
watz ur in ur opinion?



vikshr   
Member since: Aug 07
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-05-09 09:04:55

Quote:
Originally posted by DesiGuy1981



thanx
but i m littel confuse..dont knw if i shud go with it or i shud wait..
3.28 dont look bad to me..
i asked her if she cud to 3.15
and she said she cudnt..
oh and one more question?
which one is better..3 years or 5 years
she told me that 3.28 rate was for 5 years
but i have a feeling i can get her to do it for 3 years
but want to knw...which is good..3 or 5?
thanx




As pratik said,... between 3 and 5 yrs... 5 yr is better....
and 3.28% is a very good rate, no need to argue with a banker who already is acting honestly with you...

As for wait or not.... well one thing for sure, rates are not going to go up in the next BOC meeting.... so no harm in waiting... this wait will cost you about $350/m (i.e. 4.95% - 3.28% on $250k mortgage)....... if rate actually goes down, savings will be well worth the wait... decision is yours !


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kittu   
Member since: Jul 05
Posts: 13
Location: GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-05-09 21:22:11

Quote:
Originally posted by hem_13


This charcha is helping a lot of us... Thanks to everyone for your reviews and suggestions.

Does anyone in here know (if at all) if any mortgage broker will pay for the penalty on behalf of their client? I believe I overheard some desi guys back in Brampton had teamed up together and approached a broker, who agreed to pay the penalty on one's behalf as he was securing a group business. Curious, if it is true and anyone knows of such...

My research on finding the best 5 year closed / fixed mortgage is available with 1) ING 2) FirstNational are top on the list with best offeres.


i really dont think mortgage broker paying penalty on behalf of client to get the business . talking about best five years closed , 5.64% is good rate for five years fixed term(when we are talking about best rates we are assuming good credit score)



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