Posted on: 30-03-04 02:09:50
Hi ,
Though I dormant participant I dont 4get 2 log on every single day and "meet" all of u --- Garvo, Blue Lobster , Sanjiv , Chandresh ,Jake,Kapil and recently Manjeet and Jyoti (pardon 4 mising out sm1 )......... My salutations to all of u to keep the embers smouldering .......... This forum becomes addictive .Imagine how much @ lack of awareness our folks back home wud b had it not been 4 the invaluable contributions by each of u .
This thread has unmistakably brought out the nutshell view of all reasons for and not migrating 2 Canada .I just cannot resist to add my wee bit as this thread has been very very thought provoking being the issue refreshed .
I am currently @ Bahrain , have been in the ME for 4 years + now . Landed @ Toranto 4 a week in October and have been a regular reader of the forum 4 the past 6 months or so . Plan 2 join in 4 good in an year or 2's time ..............pardon the abbrevs pls!!
I think Chandresh's views are very seasoned as he is a person who is elder than most of us has been a successful professional and @ a time would have been no less enthusiastic than us , now. Could be he is what we will be in future . I always regard and reread his mails . Though slightly negative (due 2 experience I guess ) he reasons out succinctly his line of argument .
Why do people come 4m the ME ?? Manjeet has explained that reasonably well as 2 y a person who is earning tax free $2k-3k pm and and almost Indian environment wud need 2 seek 4 greener pastures . This want of residence and permanence hangs like a 'Damocles Sword' on us where by though we are earning well and living comfortably , we are unable 2 "live" our life for lack of that elusive 2morrow !!! . But then Manjeet and Jyoti , we do not know whether we will be the scapegoats after 2-3 years .I have seen ppl earning lifetimes of fortunes in the ME . And , if v r so enterprising abt business how abt trying and setting 1 in the ME ?? But then there is no guarantee of permanence I agree which ironically Canada provides . Even if u have a small business in Canada u cal it ur own and think of its futurity .
Canada --- upon reaching I was surprised 2 find guys making 50k pm in Delhi were surviving by doing sales jobs and the working hours were tight .Though they had a basement Apartment and a car 2 boast off --- future was still a question as there is no monetary security . U live 4 the day and the month ....period . No doubt u r living in a good clean environment , u r a legal permanent resident But lack of occupation brings the unwanted dark side . Ultimately he asked me if I was wary of any opportunities in the ME .
Just imagine these 3 words ----LEGAL PERMANENT RESIENT ---- A friend of mine unable 2 get a Green Card wwas checking the viability of becoming a PR and continue working in the US .
Pluses are -- u r part of an educated , civilized society and as some1 had put it somewhere "the system takes care if u fail " which is exactly the opposite n India (and 1 big reason y I left the country ) -"The system fails u where u care " . Even a millionaire n India is not granted the lifestyle what an average Canadian lives unless of course u r in the "white dress“ category . So guys that’s a big plus .
But are u willing 2 sacrifice ur years of hard earned education, professional knowledge and acumen 4 doing a labor job as Kapil directly puts & I guess the same reason emphasized by Chandresh as well. A big question mark ????. And the very objective of this informative site and forum .
I am reminded of a small anecdote that I had heard as a child . A King punished 1 of his courtesans 4 some fault and gave him 2 choices --- Either bear 100 shoe blows or eat 100 onions .... The guy opted 4 the latter as he felt that the former was humiliating . He ate 10 onions and his eyes started watering .He could take no more and updated his choice ----"Shoe blows please"
First blow , second blow -- third -- 4th ........... The whole court was laughing and our poor guy was feeling hit very badly by the shoe hit. After 20 shoe blows he changed his choice again ----- Onions ..........Not surprisingly he ended up having both the 100 onions and the 100 shoes and still felt comforted somewhat ...............
So dearos , both the options are equally poised .......... 2b or not 2b in Canada .......... Depends how much fight and perseverance u have got 2 achieve the GOAL which needs 2 b redefined . Is it money , permanence or quality of life u r looking 4 ??? Make ur choice . U win some u lose some .
But all said and done quoting sm thing I d read smwhere on the forum .........."4 every single PR who wishes 2 return 2 India there r 100 in a queue waiting 2 come over "
Regards and Best wishes and kudos 2 the whole team of regular participants .
Manasvi
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Hi ,
Though I dormant participant I dont 4get 2 log on every single day and "meet" all of u --- Garvo, Blue Lobster , Sanjiv , Chandresh ,Jake,Kapil and recently Manjeet and Jyoti (pardon 4 mising out sm1 )......... My salutations to all of u to keep the embers smouldering .......... This forum becomes addictive .Imagine how much @ lack of awareness our folks back home wud b had it not been 4 the invaluable contributions by each of u .
This thread has unmistakably brought out the nutshell view of all reasons for and not migrating 2 Canada .I just cannot resist to add my wee bit as this thread has been very very thought provoking being the issue refreshed .
I am currently @ Bahrain , have been in the ME for 4 years + now . Landed @ Toranto 4 a week in October and have been a regular reader of the forum 4 the past 6 months or so . Plan 2 join in 4 good in an year or 2's time ..............pardon the abbrevs pls!!
I think Chandresh's views are very seasoned as he is a person who is elder than most of us has been a successful professional and @ a time would have been no less enthusiastic than us , now. Could be he is what we will be in future . I always regard and reread his mails . Though slightly negative (due 2 experience I guess ) he reasons out succinctly his line of argument .
Regards and Best wishes and kudos 2 the whole team of regular participants .
Manasvi
Yep Manasvi, I do agree with you. He is more experienced then me. After all he is living there & talking abt reality & his experiences. Where as I have no experience. Even I also take his mail in a healthy way though little negative
. Without him & others seniors we can’t know the ground realities of Canada. & for this I always appreciate Chandresh, BL, Jake3D, Garvo, biomed & not to forget pramod chopra (who don’t believe in arguments & give fair answers to everybody) & other seniors too . Hope to get more good advices from them
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Orginally posted by sanjeevm
Hi Friends,
Till now, we have only couple of 'real' replies to the thread, rest is 'the same story'. Requesting to all those Desis who have been here for 3-4 years or more.
Please contribute and tell us: HAVE YOU GOT, WHAT YOU HAD COME FOR?
I though this thread is for those who are in Canada.... am I missing something here??????
Thanks and regards.
Biomed
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"Change before you have to" : Jack Welch
NO ONE SHOULD EVER COME TO CANADA!!!
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Orginally posted by deeba
NO ONE SHOULD EVER COME TO CANADA!!!
Can you elaborate you post a bit???
Thanks and regards.
Biomed
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ok
I just wrote that because I don't like staying here. I have lots of friends in India and I miss them a lot. I have a few friends here too but I don't think they can ever take the place of my school friends
And when I go to the mosque sometimes for dinner parties etc.,lots of people are really mean to me so I don't like this place anymore. I used to go to those dinners very often before but now I try to avoid it as much as I can. 
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~deeba~
every place has its goods and bads. u just have to deal with it.
i got *exactly* what i was looking for when i came here - a cushy housewife position with excellent long-term benefits 
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ah, i love not having those frigging deadlines anymore...
seriously, u can research and gripe all u want, it all boils down to what the end result is - if u r still in Canada and don't like it, that's yr choice. if u r not in Canada and want to like it, that's yr choice. u just have yrself to blame (or pat on the back).
Can't really blame/pat Canada for yr own choices, can u?
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