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Originally posted by ILOVENA
I am amused by what someone wrote \" This rant I have heard since the last 20 years.\". First of all, Canadiandesi has not been around for 20 years and neither have I, in Canada.
There are few transnational companies that adhere to the law in a third world country, when it comes to pollution control, sewage and effluent treatment. Nor do they set up hospitals and schools for the people around the factories. Never mind the white collared managers in these factories - they have access to the best corporate hospitals, the best shopping malls in the nearest town, and the best schools, where their kids go........ What about the blue collared workers who operate machines, and do the actual manufacture? Do they have access to these facilities. The answer is \"no\".
In some cases, local people are displaced when industrial parks are set up by the government. Do they get adequately compensated for the lands or is all the land gobbled up by land sharks, in the garb of transnationals? Maybe, no one has thought of these because, at the end of the day, all that matters is how much money each party to the transaction makes - be it the Chief minister, the MLA of the riding, the local party functionary or the peon in the Government office that handles the files.
Does one honestly believe that multinationals go to India, to improve the living conditions of the average Indian.......? If you think so, you are dead wrong!. It is about cheap labor, the fact that you can pollute the rivers, maintain low safety standards for workers, and get your product manufactured for 10 - 20 % of the cost you would incur in your home country.
It is all about the money, not charity, and not the urge to improve the lives of people in third world countries.
Did anybody say that (including Michelin) they went to India or any so called third world or developed country for charity? Yes, they went to make money? You are right it is easy for these companies to pollute in developing countries due to lax laws.
But what do you suggest? Do you want Michelin and others to pack their bags from India? You remind Fernandes/Mamta/Communism........ so usual rant as suggested by other poster.
Ash 20 - you completely missed my point. I did not suggest that these transnational companies go to India, to set up charities. We have Bill gates and Warren Buffet to do this.
At the same time, there is no reason to jump with joy when transnational companies set up shop in a country like India. All of us understand that profit is the driving force behind these ventures. The question is how socially responsible do these companies operate in a third world country.
If you read the second paragraph of my post, you will read why I don't think it calls for a celebration when a multinational company starts a factory in India.
Also read what DIMPLE 20001 Wrote in response to my post: The last line of her post will summarize what I meant to say!
\" You will see the same cringing disparity in a town called Reynosa (Mexico) just across McAllen/Pharr, Texas. The multinationals have set up their factories in a large industrial complex - Eaton, Johnson Controls, Dana, Whirlpool, you name it. Great facilities with fully air conditioned plants and fences and security.
The immediate road leading to these plants have sewer running all over and have the biggest and dangerous potholes in addition to the people living in torn tents along the streets.
Clearly, the motive is to make money for themselves or so it appears, and no effort is made to put back anything to the community they set themselves up in.\"
ILOVENA - It does not matter whether multinational company set up shop or Indian company, all are for profit and none of them will do charity. But still many people will get jobs (local or otherwise) and it will give boost to the local economy (1500 jobs & Rs. 4000 cr investment as per Ramar's post). Tax revenues.
This is a good news for local economy so people are happy. I don't know anything about Michelin project but we are assuming too much that they are not going to do anything for the community.
If Michelin don't come, is it going to improve life of local people? Any reason for not feeling happy?
Yep, it is much beneficial to have these companies operating than not. The benefits certainly outweigh what we have to loose.
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Originally posted by Ash20
ILOVENA - It does not matter whether multinational company set up shop or Indian company, all are for profit and none of them will do charity. But still many people will get jobs (local or otherwise) and it will give boost to the local economy (1500 jobs & Rs. 4000 cr investment as per Ramar's post). Tax revenues.
This is a good news for local economy so people are happy. I don't know anything about Michelin project but we are assuming too much that they are not going to do anything for the community.
If Michelin don't come, is it going to improve life of local people? Any reason for not feeling happy?
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Posted on: 27-11-09 00:46:16
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Originally posted by ILOVENAThe liberalization has not helped the majority of people - whatever the reason. They still have no access to health care, and barely eat two meals a day. When a trans-national company sets up a factory in India, it does not necessarily mean that it will improve the lot of the common man. Time and again, it only shows that the rich get richer, and the poor live on the fringe.
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Looks like you are talking of the India of 2002 when I was last present there.
India of today is changed. Yes. I agree that there might be some beggers on the streets with Mental issues or people with poverty who are unable to work but then even on the streets of Canada, I see beggers (proportionate to the population of Canada 33 mill vs 1000 million). Just observe the local food bank, subway entranes and the exits of highways
Are you aware that India has now a tremendous shortage of servants , mason's, handy men, farm labourers etc... I agree that we live in a highly corrupt world, but then that is due mainly due to lack of computerisation of processes which give rise to corruption. just wait for a couple of decades.
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ILOVENA - Do not compare the two countries. If u want then make the population of Canada same as in India and u will see more beggars here than in India.
To both TK & web 2000........... Please read my original message.
I knew that you would try convert this into a INDIA-VS-CANADA discussion. I wrote very clearly that this is NOT a "which is better - India or Canada discussion.
I know that both of you would try to hijack the essential component of the thread - which is, how socially responsible multinationals behave in third world countries.
I know you have this uncontrollable urge to convert every topic into one about Canada bashing............. If your intention is to divert the attention from the core subject of the topic, go ahead and do that.. However, that will serve no purpose.
