Historic Day in USA Congress: Modified Health Care Bill to be Passed


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WEST-IS-THE-BEST   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-10 20:34:56

I had a slim doubt about your leanings. I don't have that any more. Anyone who cries hoarse about the "government takeover of health care" can be nothing but an extreme right winger as the republicans, the tea baggers, Glenn Beck, Shawn Hannity have proved.

Also they talk LIKE YOU, about the "vast bureaucracy that the health care bill will establish".

By the way, have you heard of the GOVERNMENT RUN AND GOVERNMENT OPERATED MEDICARE? I had to use the upper case to point out that this "government run" plan has been around since 1965, a full 45 years. It was passed by President Lyndon Johnson, a democrat. It is one of the best run Government run health care plans.

It might interest you that the right wing republicans then too promised to repeal it when they controlled the white house . congress and the senate. They have not dared to do this because they would invite the wrath of their own voters.

Solution? Did you provide one, except rant and raise the bogey of socialism? Your talking about the consumer courts in matter such as health care does not make sense.

Solutions to something like 40 million uninsured Americans, can not be found in consumer courts. If that was the case, we don't need the white house, 500 congressmen, and 100 senators.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-10 21:23:26

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Originally posted by WEST-IS-THE-BEST

By the way, have you heard of the GOVERNMENT RUN AND GOVERNMENT OPERATED MEDICARE? I had to use the upper case to point out that this "government run" plan has been around since 1965, a full 45 years. It was passed by President Lyndon Johnson, a democrat. It is one of the best run Government run health care plans.


Solution? Did you provide one, except rant and raise the bogey of socialism? Your talking about the consumer courts in matter such as health care does not make sense.

Solutions to something like 40 million uninsured Americans, can not be found in consumer courts. If that was the case, we don't need the white house, 500 congressmen, and 100 senators.



Well, well, well. if "GOVERNMENT RUN AND GOVERNMENT OPERATED MEDICARE? I had to use the upper case to point out that this "government run" plan has been around since 1965, a full 45 years." is so popular and successful, then why do Obama needs 2,000 page bill? YOU ARE SO WRONG.

Further, ranting about socialism may be against your belief but is a very legitimate issue in USA which has experienced prosperity for the longest period in last 250 years without socialism. Even your God Obama is also afraid to admit that he is a socialist. You have come to conclusion that whatever your God Obama does is good for America but if you open your mind a little , then you would wonder that if Obama's solution is THE ONLY way, then why public opinion is so much against it and why his own members of Congress are voting against it. The fact is that USA is the last bastion against socialism in the developed world and there is a legitimate debate against Govt takeover. Ultimately, time will prove whether Obama was right or wrong. However, as pointed out in my first posting , it will be toolate. Obama would have retired and future generations will bear the brunt. Nehru, in India had same popularity and the mess he created is still affecting India.

Please accept that all those who oppose your God Obama are not sinners. They have legitimate concerns and there should be healthy debate. Do not try to deride others having a diffrent take.



brown_bear   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-10 22:10:23

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Originally posted by Nightmare

Nehru, in India had same popularity and the mess he created is still affecting India.




What mess are you talking about?



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-10 22:54:47

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Originally posted by brown_bear

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Nehru, in India had same popularity and the mess he created is still affecting India.




What mess are you talking about?



The mess he created and because of which you, me amd other CDs have left India and came to Canada. If you do not find any mess in India, then I am sorry and would not argue with you.



brown_bear   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-10 23:18:26

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by brown_bear

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Nehru, in India had same popularity and the mess he created is still affecting India.




What mess are you talking about?



The mess he created and because of which you, me amd other CDs have left India and came to Canada. If you do not find any mess in India, then I am sorry and would not argue with you.



Leaving India was by your own choice. Don't tell me some one forced you to leave India.

You were not happy with what you have in India. You wanted more and you left.

Most of us left India for better economic prospects. Like some Nepali's who come to India for better prospects.



ILOVENA   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-03-10 00:07:24

Well, well, well. if "GOVERNMENT RUN AND GOVERNMENT OPERATED MEDICARE? I had to use the upper case to point out that this "government run" plan has been around since 1965, a full 45 years." is so popular and successful, then why do Obama needs 2,000 page bill?
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NIGHTMARE : You sure have the right login name: you are a nightmare to anyone who can think logically, is well informed. Do you have any idea of what legislative process is? Do you know what kind of legalese goes into every bill that is introduced in any legislature?

I am sorry for your ignorance. The 2000 pages of bill does not necessarily make it a bad one.

Can you please explain why it is ok for any insurance company to do this to an insured person?

1. Denial of insurance to those with pre-existing conditions.
2. Increase in premiums by up to 40 percent.
3. Denial of insurance when an insured falls sick with life threatening illnesses like diabetes, or cancer.
4. Cap on life time or yearly coverage.
5. Denial of cap on out of pocket expenses by the insured.

Do you know that an estimated 45000 people die every year and a similar number go bankrupt because either they have been denied or have been under-covered?

You do not have substantive facts.......... just rants like a right winger. You have not explained what you mean by "government takeover" of health care.

One last piece of advice. Stop this hatred against Manmohan Singh, Obama, India, .......... And stop watching Fox news. It will do you some good.


By the way the USA came into being only on 6th July 1776. That makes it 234 years old not 250........ that would mean you need to do some homework before you rant.

PS: do you know that the cold war ended with the end of the soviet union? There is no need for "USA to be the last bastion against socialism in the developed world"




brown_bear   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-03-10 00:44:35

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Originally posted by ILOVENA


PS: do you know that the cold war ended with the end of the soviet union? There is no need for "USA to be the last bastion against socialism in the developed world"





LOL

Nightmare would be surprised to know that there is communist party in USA since 1919 and it exists even today!!

http://www.cpusa.org/





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