Is apartment size linked to family size ???


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bighead   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-09-04 01:16:44

thanks chandresh for your reply... yes it confirms what i have been reading, there does not seem to be any law that says you have to seperate your children after they reach age of 12 if they are of the opposite sex.. but there are regulations included in the tenant protection act that allow landlords to deny tenancy to tenants if its a question of overcrowding if such overcrowding can become a health hazard in terms of fire etc or if such overcrowding can become a threat to other tenants from enjoying their property or becomes a threat of damage to the property... but for that to happen, such a criteria must be applied across all their tenants...

i know for a fact that the alberta tenants protection act has these exclusions, but at the same time makes it illegal for landlords to discriminate against tenants based on the the number of children, unless its a building specifically meant for residents who do not have children... in which case, they can deny tenancy regardless of if you have one child or ten... but they still cant deny you tenancy if you have two children as opposed to three, unless ofcourse they apply an overcrowding regulation and limit occupancy on a per room basis...



chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-09-04 08:26:48

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Orginally posted by bighead

but there are regulations included in the tenant protection act that allow landlords to deny tenancy to tenants if its a question of overcrowding



Frankly, I have never heard of a regulation for overcrowding. Might be a good idea to check that whether it applies in Ontario too.

Chandresh


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Sudarsan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-09-04 08:47:01

I too was denied renting one bedroom apartment as I have one son aged 7 years. The property manager told me that I need to go in for a min of 2 bedroom.



crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-09-04 18:39:08

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Orginally posted by bighead

... i called up alberta child welfare services and they told me nothing of the sort exists in alberta... they usually dont care as long as there is no abuse involved...
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I just talked to someone from Ontario's equivalent here in Toronto. Pretty much the same position here, no law and they don't care as long as there has been no history of abuse.



bighead   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-09-04 19:54:50

yeah, you would think that a child welfare department would definately know if something of this sort existed... specially since it specifically involves children... and if such law did exist, i would assume that they would be the only department, apart from the cops, who would have the legislative authority to enforce it...

this could very well be landlords or property managers taking advantage of the fact that not a lot of people are familiar with local tenancy regulations...

they do have exceptions in terms of enforcing the number of tenants per room, but nothing i have read allows them to say who sleeps where... frankly its ludicrous...

another little tidbit i learnt while going through tenants protection act of ontario... apparently it has now become illegal for a landlord to deny tenancy if the tenant has pets... the whole "no pets" clause has been thrown out... as long as they dont become a problem to other tenants... the landlord cant do squat about it, and if he denies you tenancy based on it, you can drag him to the tribunal..



amit kalia   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-09-04 13:23:11

Please pardon my last comments on this post. Here is the correct reply with an example:

Number of Occupants:

Jennifer is a single mother with three children who is receiving Ontario Works. While she would love to be able to rent a three bedroom apartment for herself and her children, these units are far too expensive. She knows that on her tight budget she will only be able to afford a two bedroom apartment. She plans to share her bedroom with her daughter and have her two sons share the other. Unfortunately, many landlords have declined her applications because they require families with three children to rent, at a minimum, a three bedroom apartment.

Often, landlords or property managers refuse to rent to families with children on the basis of rules limiting the number of occupants in units of a particular size. A couple with four children, for example, may be told that six people cannot live in a three bedroom apartment, even though it is not overcrowding to have children share bedrooms. Unless a rule relates to compliance with an overcrowding by-law, a landlord or property manager should not refuse a family because of rules limiting the number of occupants. While overcrowding by-laws vary from municipality to municipality, requirements are usually close to 100 sq. ft. of living space per occupant.

For more information on "Human Rights in Housing" visit the below link:


http://www.equalityrights.org/cera/docs/hrguide.htm

Posting the above link on Canadian Desi's home page will be a good idea.

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bighead   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-09-04 16:02:11

i know about the various overcrowding bylaws regarding tenancy... but am still to find any confirmation of the regulation that says children over 12 of the opposite sex may not share a room...

after a week of looking, i am of the belief that this is one of the urban myth's that does not exist, but many people are being duped by landlords denying tenancy based on it in the hopes that the tenant does not know such a regulation does not exist...





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