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Canadian Dream   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 177
Location: Calgary, AB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 09:25:41

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From my lack of expereince in Job Search I never knew the importance of reference.



The Canadian and American society works on references - in India (and maybe elsewhere) they go on the basis of interview. Here checking your references is a big and important part of the selection process.

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Orginally posted by coolayer
My employer was not happy when I left him because he wanted me to continue with him. With big frowns on his face and a big sigh he said : Go ahead if that's what you want.



The thing for us to keep in mind is that whenever we leave any employer, we should leave in good spirits - leaving goodwill behind. Also before you leave any employer check for people who will give you reference later. Its also a good idea to collect a written testimonial/ reference letter so that in caes that manager departs from the company you still have a reference from that company.

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Today when I read the email, I immediately contacted the employer and asked him to reply to the interviewer.



As I said before you leave the employer you should get atleast one managers permission to use his name as reference. Also the moment you give out that managers contact details to another company, you should drop an email to your manager and let him know to expect a call - that way he is prepared (or atleast he knows somebody will be calling about you) and the call does not come as a shock/ surprise.

Anyway, the interview looks positive, and depending on what your managers reference says about you, it appears that they should be moving towards a decision before the end of the week. Keep your fingers crossed and, once again, good luck.



coolayer   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 30
Location: Vancouver

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 12:06:55

Thanks for the best wishes.
When the interviewer told me to email one reference, I dropped an email to my employer that he might receive a call. I thought of contacting my previous Project Manager also but then I considered into account the various facts and finally decided to go with my employer only.
My employer and I were always on good terms. In the past whenever I required any document to sponsor someone from India, to get support letters to open Bank account for my wife etc., he was very helpful. He would ask me to email him the matter which he would fine tune and then would sign happily. The only minsunderstanding between us is that he wants me to continue working with him forever.
Much as I love him, I did not want to live in UK with the salary I was getting. And we work permit holders were not getting salary hikes. There was significant difference between difference between what goras are getting and what WP holders are getting.
Although in terms of Indian Ruppess I was able to save 50-60K per month (thanx to 1GBP=84 Rs) but that too only by living in shared accomodation. We shared a flat with the family of my colleague. The misunderstandings between the ladies at home affected our relationship at work. I explained this to my employer a number of times. But he was under the impression that we Indians want to settle in the UK and hence could afford to work at low wages. All the Indians stuck in that company are waiting for their freedom. Because of the work permit constraint I could not apply elsewhere. Moreover I was drawn to the mountains and lakes of Vancouver. After I came to Van, I read on the Home Office site of UK that the new immigration rules will badly affect the work permit holders. So today I don't regret leaving UK.

My employer was upset so much that he stopped talking to me.He lacks decision making, so he did not know how to deal with me and hence began to avoid me. But despite all that we had a a very good relationship. I assured him that should there be any problem I would always be there to help him and should he want me to do any new work remotely I would do it.
Therefore I was quite confident that he would never speak bad about me. And he has done his job very well. He has emailed to the prospective employer a very good reference along with his contact number for further information.
I have got a few more calls for interviews. But first I want to wait for the outcome of this. If I get this one, I would stick to it as I understand I have to first gain good expereince in a structured environment to fill the gaps in my profile.


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coolayer   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 30
Location: Vancouver

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-05 19:54:05

The former recruiter called me for another interview today. After two rounds of interview, first with technical head and then with the MD, I was made a formal offer.
I would like to share these happy moments will all the desis. Thanx to all those who took their time to read and to contribute on this thread.
The meditation techniques I have learnt in the Basic Meditation Course of 'Art of Living' http://www.artofliving.org" rel="nofollow">LINK have helped me a lot in the past few stressful days.
Also I would like to share one more thing related to this job:
It was my last week in London. One morning I went to Gurudwara. A Babaji who serves in the Gurudwara knew that I was planning to move to Vancouver. That day words came from his mouth:
Ladoo is in your hand whether you decide to stay in UK or in Canada.

After Gurudwara when I reached my office and opened my mailbox, there was invitation from this company for the interview.

God you are great!
I wish all the best to all the desis.


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Canadian Dream   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 177
Location: Calgary, AB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-05 00:09:44

Congratulations and all the very best.



Manasvi   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 733
Location: Bahrain

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-02-05 02:00:41

Wonderful Coolayer wonderful,

I have read this complete thread with bated breath ........as a movie s climax shapes up . U ve done a wonderful job even b4 the word GO by making Inquiries and applying b4hand .......... Plus ur preparation for both the Tech an non Tech parts introspecting where u were weak and cemented the chinks .

Thats what I called being +ve and preparing well . U may give a 33% of ur succcess 2 these intangible things that u did in ur final days .....Congrats .

As much as it is a boost 2 me and many others who aspire being @ Vancouver for the same reason as urs ur vivid account serves as a solid learning ground.
Thanks ,
Manasvi

PS : Nice 2 learn that CD came in handy in ur success.



coolayer   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 30
Location: Vancouver

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-02-05 03:54:29

Hi lovely desis,
For me it was not easy to take the decision. I spent months thinking in London if I was making a wise move. Most of the posts on CandianDesi.com and discovervancouver.com made me think again and again. But as the saying goes: no pains no gains. I often calmed myself with the philosophy that the probability of happening an event is always one, not 0.5, 0.6 , 0.8 or 0.9 but 1.
I often think : Have I come into this world with my own choice? Where would I have been if my father and mother had not married each other? if my grandfather and grandmother had not married each other? ad infinitum.. If we take into account all the factors that have contributed to my birth, it is a mind boogling result that the probablity of my birth was significantly less than 0.0000000000000001. (I have not counted the zeros here but just pressed the 0 key for a second)

But still the event has happened. Here I am. Who controls all this? Are these the efforts of someone?
Anyway that's philosophy..Despite this philosophy, the job offer is a big surprise for me. I wonder why I applied for the post when the job description did not fully match my skill set (normally I skip such postings), why the recruiter has give me a job when I told him that I have never worked on COM+ whereas the architecture of their application is based upon COM+.
Dear Desis the main point behind all this is that positive attitude and strong will power help a lot. Having faith in your capabilities is very important. Learn from your mistakes, know your limitations, weaknesses, survey the market, come prepared with all the knowledge about the skills you have and the skills required in the market. That's your karma....
And then surrender your decision to the nature and leave the outcome to it. Believe me, the probability of happening an event is 1.

Surprisingly today two more companies that I had contacted months ago from London, emailed me and asked if I was available. Their requirements exactly match my skill set. So the lesson to learn from this is that keep applying. If the companies don't reply you today, they might get back to you tomorrow.
The company has given me two days to read the agreement and think on the offer. I have decided to sign it. I hope it would bring good to me as it is the Ladoo Babaji has offered me.

Regards



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Manasvi   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 733
Location: Bahrain

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-02-05 05:37:46

Please check postal message .

Manasvi





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