Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 31-07-06 05:13:18
you need the Govt's permission to name your child !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5229060.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5229060.stm</a>
(Did I hear someone say...a neo-Taliban 
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Hmmm... what is going on here ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm</a>...
I guess following the "rule of the book"....(Last link of my signature)
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I am sure arrogant and Ignorant as you are that link in your signature is retardedly mistranslated.I am sure you have not read the koran and the style of the koran is not as what is in whatever that translation came from. By the way is it your website?? There isnt any homepage or anything. Is the domain for sale???
How many muslims do you see on the board posting new links and messages to articles portraying hindus in bad light.
May be thats what its going to take to stop you from your daily nonsense. You seem to have made that your full time job but then again where you come from its pretty normal isnt it?? the redneck wilderness of missouri. Instead of trying to build bridges is that all you can do??
By the way the article on malaysia was pretty good. I guess in your religious zeal you could only see one side of the coin. The text thats bold shows the other side if you can look through glasses of racism.
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I'm becoming an alien in Malaysia, in my own country," says Dr Jacob George.
The president of the Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam in Selangor State has been helping to organise efforts to stop the local authorities in the ethnic Malay-Muslim dominated city of Shah Alam from demolishing a 107-year-old Hindu temple.
Earlier in April another 19th-Century temple was demolished a few kilometres away in the capital Kuala Lumpur.
The authorities said in both cases the temples' founders did not have permission to build them. But the demolitions are surprising because Malaysia has forged for itself a reputation as a successful multicultural society.
There's a creeping Islamicisation in our society and this isn't appropriate because we're a multi-religious, multi-racial country
Fong Po Kuan, MP
In living memory it has had only two serious outbreaks of inter-communal violence; in 1946 and 1969. But lately, non-Muslims in Malaysia have expressed fears that the delicate balance between themselves and the majority may be shifting.
Malaysia is one of Asia's great melting pots. Sat at the crossroads of the continent, trade and migration have left the country with a rich mix of races, cultures and religions.
It is a secular democracy where Islam is the official religion. Just over half the population is ethnic Malay and, by law Muslim; while the rest is a mix of ethnic Chinese, Indian and indigenous peoples who are mostly Christians, Hindus, Taoists, Buddhists, Sikhs and animists.
The country has a far better record of multicultural harmony than most of its neighbours.
Some local authorities want to prosecute couples for hand-holding
But the recent demolitions are not without precedent.
Last year the compound of a cult known as the Sky Kingdom was levelled by the authorities, weeks after an attack by a Muslim mob. Many of the cultists are now on trial.
And just before Christmas a newly completed church of an indigenous community near Skudai in Johor state was reduced to rubble, closely monitored by Islamic department officials and the police.
In all cases the Muslim-dominated local authorities say the buildings were illegal. Many such buildings are deemed as such because they pre-date land records. Others are put up illegally because some local authorities seem reluctant to grant permission for temples and churches, but worshippers build them regardless.
In contrast, the issue of illegally built mosques rarely arises because many local governments are generous with both land and money for their construction.
Nor are the demolitions non-Muslims' only cause for concern.
The police recently ordered non-Muslim policewomen to wear Muslim headscarves for their annual parade, something that many non-Muslims felt set a worrying precedent.
And then there have been moves by some local authorities to ban or restrict dog ownership - conservative Muslims see dogs as unclean - and prosecute couples for holding hands or kissing in public.
"During our parents' time there was no problem when you hold hands in the park," says Fong Po Kuan, a non-Muslim opposition MP.
"There's a creeping Islamicisation in our society and this isn't appropriate because we're a multi-religious, multi-racial country."
Political background
That Islamicisation partly stems from the 1980s and 90s when government and opposition both tried to play up their Islamic credentials to win the battle for the Malay vote. But now even some Malay Muslims are starting to look at events with concern.
"Many of these issues that have generated controversy were not handled in a way that was thoroughly thought out," says Dr Mazeni Alwi, Chairman of the very conservative Muslim Professionals Forum.
He suspects that those responsible may come from backgrounds where they've rarely mixed with people from outside their own community and so suffer from "a lack of empathy and of understanding of other people's needs for their religion".
Even Teras, a vociferous Malay rights - and by definition, Muslim - group, has called for more understanding.
"There should be a discussion and we should approach things sensitively," says its president, Mohamad Azmi.
Another prominent Malay leader, former Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim, widely seen as an architect of Malaysia's Islamicisation, thinks that local government and religious officers have been given too much freedom and not been held to account.
"There's been a failure of leadership," he says.
One senior state religious officer suggested off the record that the issue was not necessarily about faith at all.
"Some people see Malays and Muslims as one and the same thing. Some Malays feel they're much worse off economically than the other communities and want us to take their side on everything," he says.
"We have to be very careful not to get dragged into race problems."
The inter-faith Sky Kingdom, or teapot cult, has suffered attacks
Indeed several sources suggest that it is indeed less an issue of Muslim intolerance and more one of right wing Malay ethno-nationalism.
But the people who I'd hoped to ask about such charges - politicians from the Malay Umno party which leads the government - were not forthcoming. Several calls to Mohamad Khir Toyo the Chief Minister of Selangor state, to Shah Alam MP Aziz Shamsuddin and to Malaysia's Islamic Affairs Abdullah Mohamad Zin elicited no response.
It must be noted that the man who many non-Muslims put their faith in to protect their rights is Umno's leader Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi; both a Malay and a devout Muslim.
"I believe that the rights of non-Muslims are actually expanding under the Prime Minister's liberal leadership," says Reverend Wong Kim Kong, head of the National Evangelical Christian Fellowship.
While Mr Abdullah's predecessor, Mahathir Mohamad, maintained the balance between Malaysia's communities with an iron fist, the consensual Mr Abdullah has avoided a showdown over these religious issues.
Many who value Malaysia's multiculturalism will be hoping that the soft spoken approach of a leader often dubbed "Mr Nice" won't be taken for weakness
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Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 31-07-06 12:49:04
Umm Azazf... a long time back there was a discussion about that site. That link was copied from the ex-webpage of Dr. Zakir Naik; a site that was introduced to me by a member of CD..desi_in_alberta.
I see that the original site is long gone..I will appropriately update that link..with an
UNBIASED link...
Would a Link from USC (University of Southern California, Los Angeles suffice ?)... or would that also be "mis-interpreted"... My respect for that religion greatly improved after reading SURAH #9.... Wow ! It really is mind blowing ..
As for your other questions....
I did not even bother posting anything else and merely left it to the interpretations of viewers/readers....Afterall, reams and reams of pages have been spent on this topic.
I was a rather strong proponent of Malaysian religious tolerance, until I saw those links...but alas... the BBC loves giving us distorted links 
The demolition of those buildings have a context in Indian politics as well. So its quite okay/justified if Malaysia demolishes buildings of other faiths..but when it happens in India, we get riots ?
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Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 31-07-06 12:55:19
And something in China also (but then, China is the big bad boy with human rights violations !)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5231106.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5231106.stm</a>
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Originally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
UNBIASED link...
That has to be an oxymoron
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"Progress comes from deviation".
On a side note if anybody finds my comments or posts offensive or irritating please ignore it and if that still bothers you; please write to me and I will demonstrate.
Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 31-07-06 13:05:18
Well would rather live in the security of a link posted on a respectable academic website, rather than some "aira-gaira-natthu-khaira" website !
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Warning !! SCAM ALERT !!
http://www.canadiandesi.ca/read.php?TID=4169 & http://www.canadiandesi.ca/read.php?TID=1379
This is a Useful Health related Tip
http://www.canadiandesi.ca/read.php?TID=3865
Please visit
http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php for some interesting Information ! (Especially 009.005 )
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Originally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
And something in China also (but then, China is the big bad boy with human rights violations !)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5231106.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5231106.stm</a>
Since when did you start posting such links. Quite a change in a few minutes.
I guess if google were to offer degrees you might pass with googler distinction. Coz what you post is never your own thoughts. They seem to borrowed from google.
But again enough of my indulgence for today. You can get back to merry redneck life again
. Just a question have you seen that yellow brick road?-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Progress comes from deviation".
On a side note if anybody finds my comments or posts offensive or irritating please ignore it and if that still bothers you; please write to me and I will demonstrate.
