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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
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Originally posted by web2000Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
Looks like many posters donot know what Cheating and Discrimination really is. The quote above is pure discrimination.
Some posters confuse between cheating and discrimination, and let me clear the fog around it.
Cheating
1. A refugee (though a valid refugee) gets a fake visa / by fake means lands on Canada and then claims for refugee status. He is a pucca, genuine and a clean refugee but the means that he took to come here is cheating.
2. A desi company which conducts IT course and asks $2100 as a fee for a course (with free laptop, System access and printed material) is billed to an EI student as $5000 (without Laptop) since the money comes from the govt.. This is cheating. Even the Govt. can do nothing about it since it has only 10 inspectors for 435 PCC colleges and 1000's of non PCC college in Ontario, Even the inspectors canot close the school or file a lawsuit for cheating (See relavant Toronto star investegative report and comments by viewers for partial revealment of facts. The other part of my facts is based on my sole investegative observation. A desi is the main culprit and he uses an accountant/ Auditor / tax filer (nationality unknown)). This is cheating.
3. A certain community in Malton conducts an illegal marriage for the purpose of immigration is known as cheating.
4. A famous immigration company teams up with a labour company and provides job offer to a candidate in india to increase his points / speed up his application. The fee for the candidate is Rs 4 lakhs for just this service. He is instructed that upon landing he can work for $10 an hour or he can find his own work. Looks like border line cheating for me. It proves that ones with more money are processed faster than those without money.
Discrimination
1. Govt. of Canada wants only "Engineers" to immigrate. Only Engineers are given points (sufficient, that is). But once they come and enter Canada, they are no longer Engineers (So called software Engineers exempted as local Non Vm's are not availabe for filling these positions). They canot apply for Engineering jobs nor can they call themselves as Engineers.
2. A job comes up. Lot of VM's and Non VM's apply. The employer assumes that a Non VM will work better. This is discrimination
3. A Non Vm emompoyer who will not hestitate to terminate any VM at or before 3 months. But when the same is a non VM, he will talk and check if he will be eligible for EI (if he has the sufficinet hours) and then only lay him off. He does not care what the VM will do but then will be very concerned of the Non VM's future. Also he might be afraid that a non VM may know a lot about his responsibilities.
4. A food bank outside the GTA is staffed by Non VM's. They will not mind any number of items that a non VM will take but then they will be very picky about what a VM does and what he takes out. Sometimes they speak very hardsh words to VM's which they never speak to Non VM's. Many times I have noticed that they give a lot of goodies (taht are not available to VM's) given to Non VM's like Cakes, Pastries etc...
5. The Canadian Govt. advertising slogans like
"Canada needs to fill 1 million jobs by 2010"
"Canada is the best place to live and Canadians welcome immigrants"
"Canadians are very loving , soft and heart warming people"
"Canada is a culture melting point"
and then they take immigarnts in the 200,000's but then donot care about if jobs are there and if the professionals that come to this country will ever have respectful jobs. Also they never have enacted laws to see that the VM;s coming here have a FAIR chance of getting a job. However, they have solid , well crafted laws to govern what kind of people who come here. Obviously they donot want laboureres from 3 rd. world countries coming here as they will pollutet he society. Having ERC's with 1/2 baked people to go through your resumes is NO HELP. This is pure cheating.
Like this the list can go on.
Hope the people get the point and essense of the posting to differentiate between Cheating and Discrimination.
Peace by a PD
Really good information but unfortunately no one will support you because of our typical mentality.
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Originally posted by web2000
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
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Originally posted by web2000Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
Looks like many posters donot know what Cheating and Discrimination really is. The quote above is pure discrimination.
Some posters confuse between cheating and discrimination, and let me clear the fog around it.
Cheating
1. A refugee (though a valid refugee) gets a fake visa / by fake means lands on Canada and then claims for refugee status. He is a pucca, genuine and a clean refugee but the means that he took to come here is cheating.
2. A desi company which conducts IT course and asks $2100 as a fee for a course (with free laptop, System access and printed material) is billed to an EI student as $5000 (without Laptop) since the money comes from the govt.. This is cheating. Even the Govt. can do nothing about it since it has only 10 inspectors for 435 PCC colleges and 1000's of non PCC college in Ontario, Even the inspectors canot close the school or file a lawsuit for cheating (See relavant Toronto star investegative report and comments by viewers for partial revealment of facts. The other part of my facts is based on my sole investegative observation. A desi is the main culprit and he uses an accountant/ Auditor / tax filer (nationality unknown)). This is cheating.
3. A certain community in Malton conducts an illegal marriage for the purpose of immigration is known as cheating.
4. A famous immigration company teams up with a labour company and provides job offer to a candidate in india to increase his points / speed up his application. The fee for the candidate is Rs 4 lakhs for just this service. He is instructed that upon landing he can work for $10 an hour or he can find his own work. Looks like border line cheating for me. It proves that ones with more money are processed faster than those without money.
Discrimination
1. Govt. of Canada wants only "Engineers" to immigrate. Only Engineers are given points (sufficient, that is). But once they come and enter Canada, they are no longer Engineers (So called software Engineers exempted as local Non Vm's are not availabe for filling these positions). They canot apply for Engineering jobs nor can they call themselves as Engineers.
2. A job comes up. Lot of VM's and Non VM's apply. The employer assumes that a Non VM will work better. This is discrimination
3. A Non Vm emompoyer who will not hestitate to terminate any VM at or before 3 months. But when the same is a non VM, he will talk and check if he will be eligible for EI (if he has the sufficinet hours) and then only lay him off. He does not care what the VM will do but then will be very concerned of the Non VM's future. Also he might be afraid that a non VM may know a lot about his responsibilities.
4. A food bank outside the GTA is staffed by Non VM's. They will not mind any number of items that a non VM will take but then they will be very picky about what a VM does and what he takes out. Sometimes they speak very hardsh words to VM's which they never speak to Non VM's. Many times I have noticed that they give a lot of goodies (taht are not available to VM's) given to Non VM's like Cakes, Pastries etc...
5. The Canadian Govt. advertising slogans like
"Canada needs to fill 1 million jobs by 2010"
"Canada is the best place to live and Canadians welcome immigrants"
"Canadians are very loving , soft and heart warming people"
"Canada is a culture melting point"
and then they take immigarnts in the 200,000's but then donot care about if jobs are there and if the professionals that come to this country will ever have respectful jobs. Also they never have enacted laws to see that the VM;s coming here have a FAIR chance of getting a job. However, they have solid , well crafted laws to govern what kind of people who come here. Obviously they donot want laboureres from 3 rd. world countries coming here as they will pollutet he society. Having ERC's with 1/2 baked people to go through your resumes is NO HELP. This is pure cheating.
Like this the list can go on.
Hope the people get the point and essense of the posting to differentiate between Cheating and Discrimination.
Peace by a PD
Really good information but unfortunately no one will support you because of our typical mentality.
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Posted on: 04-11-09 12:01:47
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Posted on: 04-11-09 12:01:47
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Originally posted by web2000
Your post does not justify of this kind of discrimination.
What discrimination? Everyone, regardless of where they are from, are subject to the same 10 yr/20yr provisions. If someone feels entitled for a shorter wait, then their countries of origin have made an effort along with Canada to agree upon a treaty.
Treaties involve at least 2 countries where they have to mutually agree. Several have agreed and several have not. Maybe India does not have the provision to form a mutually agreeable partnership with Canada or vice-versa. And you call that discrimination.
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Originally posted by web2000
There is no treaty when immigrants(Whether Asian or European) are forced to pay the tax(No discrimination when u pay the tax)
Paying tax is not discrimination or non-discrimination. It just comes down to the fact that when you are a tax resident, everyone (not just immigrants) has to pay the taxes per the law.
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Originally posted by web2000
All these rules are just to discriminate the Asian people.
Really? Korea is Asia and is part of the pension treaty.
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Originally posted by dimple2001
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Originally posted by web2000
Your post does not justify of this kind of discrimination.
What discrimination? Treaties involve at least 2 countries where they have to mutually agree. Several have agreed and several have not. Maybe India does not have the provision to form a mutually agreeable partnership with Canada or vice-versa. And you call that discrimination.
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Originally posted by web2000
There is no treaty when immigrants(Whether Asian or European) are forced to pay the tax(No discrimination when u pay the tax)
Paying tax is not discrimination or non-discrimination. It just comes down to the fact that when you are a tax resident, everyone (not just immigrants) has to pay the taxes per the law.
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Originally posted by web2000
All these rules are just to discriminate the Asian people.
Really? Korea is Asia and is part of the pension treaty.
I just wanted to tell u that these treaty/rules are made to discriminate. As I already said that u cannot discriminate directly and there must be rules.
OK, Just tell me that if the treaty will put any financial burden on India? If yes then it is justified and if not then why what is the purpose of it?
Dimple you are just wasting your time, some people cannot understand simple facts and statistics because whatever they see is thru negatively biased eye glasses.
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Originally posted by RESP
Dimple you are just wasting your time, some people cannot understand simple facts and statistics because whatever they see is thru negatively biased eye glasses.
If u know then please teach me what will be the financial burden on another country if this treaty/agreement is done? That will help others also to understand that there is solid reason to decide whether dependents will wait 10 yrs or 3 yrs. Theoretical people stay away from answering this.
Anyone else can clarify it.
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Originally posted by web2000
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Originally posted by RESP
Dimple you are just wasting your time, some people cannot understand simple facts and statistics because whatever they see is thru negatively biased eye glasses.
If u know then please teach me what will be the financial burden on another country if this treaty/agreement is done? That will help others also to understand that there is solid reason to decide whether dependents will wait 10 yrs or 3 yrs. Theoretical people stay away from answering this.
Anyone else can clarify it.
Frankly speaking I don’t know, and I think no one else in the forum would be able to answer this question. You are asking the wrong question (the financial burden on government) in the wrong forum. Financial burden on any government would depend on the particular government’s tax and pension structure and liabilities. In this case your best bat would be the India’s Finance Minister or Revenue Minister.. or a higher up policy makers in Indian Government
.In no way you can relate this issue to discrimination against any person living in Canada.
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