Indian police uncover fake Canadian visa scam
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Here are few of the recent scams by 'apney' Indians just to immigrate Canada by hook or crook:
1. Marriage with Canadian cousins - Yes! It happens.
2. Wedding pictures submitted to the visa office with 'rented guests'. This was reported an year ago, wherein Chandigarh visa office found 13 wedding pictures with the same guests. Go figure...
3. Just recently - someone else was appearing for IELTS on applicant's behalf. Didn't even spared IELTS (come on...). Hundreds of visa applications were rejected and the IELTS preparation institute had to close down in Punjab - authorities arrested the culprits.
4. Unverified refugee status from peaceful Indian States.
5. Marriage of convenience - I'll marry your sister, you marry mine (endless ads in desi newspapers).
6. Sportsmen absconding.
And many more...
Please tell me whose fault is it when our own countrymen abused the system so much that it left no choice for Canadian Authorities than to make it more stricter.
And then - we cry aloud discrimination.
At the risk of being called a traitor Or more, I must write this............. it is in our south asian culture - the urge to jump the line, break the law and take a short cut. I am sure some here have already drawn their guns, ready to call me names, but that is ok.......... i have heard of some who paid as much as 5,00,000 rupees to come here................. that was about 6 or 7 years ago. I am not surprised that the price of a short cut to this country has gone up in recent year....... aakhir mehangayee ka zamaana hai bhai!
Now there is no way one can justify this (One CD did just this, but that'S OK). If you had to wait for 5 or 6 years, you would feel frustrated, because here we have one of our countrymen (and women) using the back door method to come here, when actually, they did NOT belong here.
I wouldn't be surprised if the wait times for immigration goes up to 10 years. After all, our fellow country men also have contributed to this, in a small and humble way.
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Originally posted by web2000
I think people follow different paths when genuine visa applications are rejected just because the visa officer did not like ur face. e.g. even the married people are finding it difficult to get sponsored just because the immigration officer did not trust the marriage. The marriage which was registered in Indian court has been given much less importance (Another discrimination which starts right before the person lands here). Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
You know that old saying "when you point a finger at someone, the rest are pointing back at you".
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Posted on: 03-11-09 23:14:00
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 03-11-09 23:14:00
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Originally posted by web2000Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
Looks like many posters donot know what Cheating and Discrimination really is. The quote above is pure discrimination.
Some posters confuse between cheating and discrimination, and let me clear the fog around it.
Cheating
1. A refugee (though a valid refugee) gets a fake visa / by fake means lands on Canada and then claims for refugee status. He is a pucca, genuine and a clean refugee but the means that he took to come here is cheating.
2. A desi company which conducts IT course and asks $2100 as a fee for a course (with free laptop, System access and printed material) is billed to an EI student as $5000 (without Laptop) since the money comes from the govt.. This is cheating. Even the Govt. can do nothing about it since it has only 10 inspectors for 435 PCC colleges and 1000's of non PCC college in Ontario, Even the inspectors canot close the school or file a lawsuit for cheating (See relavant Toronto star investegative report and comments by viewers for partial revealment of facts. The other part of my facts is based on my sole investegative observation. A desi is the main culprit and he uses an accountant/ Auditor / tax filer (nationality unknown)). This is cheating.
3. A certain community in Malton conducts an illegal marriage for the purpose of immigration is known as cheating.
4. A famous immigration company teams up with a labour company and provides job offer to a candidate in india to increase his points / speed up his application. The fee for the candidate is Rs 4 lakhs for just this service. He is instructed that upon landing he can work for $10 an hour or he can find his own work. Looks like border line cheating for me. It proves that ones with more money are processed faster than those without money.
Discrimination
1. Govt. of Canada wants only "Engineers" to immigrate. Only Engineers are given points (sufficient, that is). But once they come and enter Canada, they are no longer Engineers (So called software Engineers exempted as local Non Vm's are not availabe for filling these positions). They canot apply for Engineering jobs nor can they call themselves as Engineers.
2. A job comes up. Lot of VM's and Non VM's apply. The employer assumes that a Non VM will work better. This is discrimination
3. A Non Vm emompoyer who will not hestitate to terminate any VM at or before 3 months. But when the same is a non VM, he will talk and check if he will be eligible for EI (if he has the sufficinet hours) and then only lay him off. He does not care what the VM will do but then will be very concerned of the Non VM's future. Also he might be afraid that a non VM may know a lot about his responsibilities.
4. A food bank outside the GTA is staffed by Non VM's. They will not mind any number of items that a non VM will take but then they will be very picky about what a VM does and what he takes out. Sometimes they speak very hardsh words to VM's which they never speak to Non VM's. Many times I have noticed that they give a lot of goodies (taht are not available to VM's) given to Non VM's like Cakes, Pastries etc...
5. The Canadian Govt. advertising slogans like
"Canada needs to fill 1 million jobs by 2010"
"Canada is the best place to live and Canadians welcome immigrants"
"Canadians are very loving , soft and heart warming people"
"Canada is a culture melting point"
and then they take immigarnts in the 200,000's but then donot care about if jobs are there and if the professionals that come to this country will ever have respectful jobs. Also they never have enacted laws to see that the VM;s coming here have a FAIR chance of getting a job. However, they have solid , well crafted laws to govern what kind of people who come here. Obviously they donot want laboureres from 3 rd. world countries coming here as they will pollutet he society. Having ERC's with 1/2 baked people to go through your resumes is NO HELP. This is pure cheating.
Like this the list can go on.
Hope the people get the point and essense of the posting to differentiate between Cheating and Discrimination.
Peace by a PD
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
4. A food bank outside the GTA is staffed by Non VM's. ...........
.............. Many times I have noticed that they give a lot of goodies (taht are not available to VM's) given to Non VM's like Cakes, Pastries etc...
That was funny.
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Posted on: 04-11-09 09:01:45
Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 04-11-09 09:01:45
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Originally posted by web2000
Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
Under normal circumstances, people from any part of the world who are now PR or citizen of Canada are subject to the following condition as noted by Service Canada:
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Category 1 - People living in Canada
You are 65 or older.
You live in Canada and are a Canadian citizen or a legal resident at the time your pension is approved.
You lived in Canada for at least 10 years after reaching age 18.
Category 2 - People living outside Canada
You are 65 or older.
You left the country and you were a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada when you left.
You lived in Canada for at least 20 years after reaching age 18.
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EXCEPTION - The now Canadians and PRs can qualify without meeting the above requirements if Canada and these people's original country has signed agreements (treaties) between them.
While the treaty has several conditions, the waiting period could reduce from 3 to 5 years. There is no treaty/agreement between India and Canada in this regard, hence the standard period is in effect.
There are treaties with lot of European countries, Mexico, Chile, Grenada, Cyprus, Malta, Turkey, Korea, etc, to name a few.
Also note, treaties are not signed because you have white, red or green skin. It is because the countries are able to offer each other comparable plans that are subject to certain verifiable rules. For example, the people who have reduced wait time would have required contribution to the pension plan/old age plan/social security plan (whatever they are called in respective countries) for certain time period.
Also, although I could not find it, based on the list of treaty signed countries, it is quite possible the treaties may have been signed with countries that allow dual citizenship in order to facilitate drawing pension from either here or there or (as in Germany) both.
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Originally posted by dimple2001
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Originally posted by web2000
Parents from the south asian countries are put on 10 yrs waiting period to get old age pension while Europeans only wait for 3 yrs. (Nobody can justify this discrimination)
Under normal circumstances, people from any part of the world who are now PR or citizen of Canada are subject to the following condition as noted by Service Canada:
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Category 1 - People living in Canada
You are 65 or older.
You live in Canada and are a Canadian citizen or a legal resident at the time your pension is approved.
You lived in Canada for at least 10 years after reaching age 18.
Category 2 - People living outside Canada
You are 65 or older.
You left the country and you were a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada when you left.
You lived in Canada for at least 20 years after reaching age 18.
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EXCEPTION - The now Canadians and PRs can qualify without meeting the above requirements if Canada and these people's original country has signed agreements (treaties) between them.
While the treaty has several conditions, the waiting period could reduce from 3 to 5 years. There is no treaty/agreement between India and Canada in this regard, hence the standard period is in effect.
There are treaties with lot of European countries, Mexico, Chile, Grenada, Cyprus, Malta, Turkey, Korea, etc, to name a few.
Also note, treaties are not signed because you have white, red or green skin. It is because the countries are able to offer each other comparable plans that are subject to certain verifiable rules. For example, the people who have reduced wait time would have required contribution to the pension plan/old age plan/social security plan (whatever they are called in respective countries) for certain time period.
Also, although I could not find it, based on the list of treaty signed countries, it is quite possible the treaties may have been signed with countries that allow dual citizenship in order to facilitate drawing pension from either here or there or (as in Germany) both.
Your post does not justify of this kind of discrimination.
Govt puts all sorts of rules/treaty when it comes to pay the money back. There is no treaty when immigrants(Whether Asian or European) are forced to pay the tax(No discrimination when u pay the tax)
All these rules are just to discriminate the Asian people. Rules are created first before the discrimination comes into practice.
