Posted on: 03-11-10 17:22:36
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If I understand corectly, you were refunded $ 8000-400 which is $ 7600?
I would think you should consider yourself EXTREMLY LUCKY to get that big amount back .....and stop pondering over $ 400......
We all know lot of people thru WWI ...no refund and no service.....
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Originally posted by Aashu
If I understand corectly, you were refunded $ 8000-400 which is $ 7600?
I would think you should consider yourself EXTREMLY LUCKY to get that big amount back .....and stop pondering over $ 400......
We all know lot of people thru WWI ...no refund and no service.....
Dear Aashu, You are right that I was lucky and many unlucky people lost much more than me. However, if we take the opportunity cost of the principal sum in account, then I lost around $1000.
Still, my point is not $400 but the fact that a so called "authorized" immigration consultant i.e Rizwan Wali scammed me (he advised me to pick that "AEO" scheme for immigration and told me to pay $8000 upfront, Now I know he lied to me and getting money in advance from people for AEO is illegal and not permissible). And we should also warn people about such con artists. I believe it will help many. So everybody reading this post, please please please be very careful with Rizwan Wali of Maple Leaf Consultants and Richard McPhee and Vick McPhee & Liu. They are fraud.
I still don't understand why people go to immigration consultants. The immigration guides and forms are very straightforward and written in English
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Originally posted by john26
I still don't understand why people go to immigration consultants. The immigration guides and forms are very straightforward and written in English
One can't help but infer that the urge of donating money to agents is greater than reading straight forward immigration guides.
Before judging anyone, let us take a step back and understand where the need arises.
Those who have worked with Indian Govt. babus, already understand that whatever document requirements are listed in the website or application package are the 'minimum' documents and usually when you go to submit your application the 'clerk saheb' will order you to arrange some 'new' documents to complete and accept it. The job is never as easy as it seems with lots of twists and turns before we reach the destination. Infact, it happens even at the local consulates (of India) in TO (am sure it is the same in all locations). How many times have you come back from the Indian consulate with your 'completed' application with a new requirement from the 'officer'?
Imagine, for someone who has lived 20-30 years in such environment, applying to a 'foreign' govt, for immigration (which according to him is a lottery ticket, what with so many rejections of Visitors and Student visas) - they need a dependable (or someone who can convince them to depend on him/her) guide and reassure them about all the documents and requirements. Agent system is the norm (unofficial) for ALL sarkari work in India - so they look for a similar approach for immigration - after all it is a life changing decision & process and you cannot afford to err.
After staying in NA for a few years and understanding the process here, it is easier for us to look back and say that the process was so simple - but I am sure, when we applied in the last 8-10 years, we also had so many questions and doubts till the passport was actually stamped.
The consultants know this very well and are there to encash on this emotion.
To the OP - thanks for posting for the benefit of the others and take this as a learning experience. If you still wish to apply, just follow the instructions on the Immigration Canada website.
Good luck.
Hiren
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Originally posted by hchheda
Before judging anyone, let us take a step back and understand where the need arises.
Those who have worked with Indian Govt. babus, already understand that whatever document requirements are listed in the website or application package are the 'minimum' documents and usually when you go to submit your application the 'clerk saheb' will order you to arrange some 'new' documents to complete and accept it. The job is never as easy as it seems with lots of twists and turns before we reach the destination. Infact, it happens even at the local consulates (of India) in TO (am sure it is the same in all locations). How many times have you come back from the Indian consulate with your 'completed' application with a new requirement from the 'officer'?
Imagine, for someone who has lived 20-30 years in such environment, applying to a 'foreign' govt, for immigration (which according to him is a lottery ticket, what with so many rejections of Visitors and Student visas) - they need a dependable (or someone who can convince them to depend on him/her) guide and reassure them about all the documents and requirements. Agent system is the norm (unofficial) for ALL sarkari work in India - so they look for a similar approach for immigration - after all it is a life changing decision & process and you cannot afford to err.
After staying in NA for a few years and understanding the process here, it is easier for us to look back and say that the process was so simple - but I am sure, when we applied in the last 8-10 years, we also had so many questions and doubts till the passport was actually stamped.
The consultants know this very well and are there to encash on this emotion.
To the OP - thanks for posting for the benefit of the others and take this as a learning experience. If you still wish to apply, just follow the instructions on the Immigration Canada website.
Good luck.
Hiren
Dear Hiren,
Thanks a lot for your comments and guidance. You really said it that why majority looks for a consultant to file their case. I was advised by few acquaintances, who moved to canada several years ago, that it is a life changing decision (like you noticed) and it is better to get it done by authorized consultants as they, presumably, can prepare and file an ordinary applicant's case in a much better and effective way.
I never thought authorized consultants could operate fraud businesses and Ponzi Schemes but you are right it turned to be a true learning experience.
