Sponsoring spouse from Mumbai, India, Inland vs Outland application


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vinod2187   
Member since: Jul 13
Posts: 3
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-03-15 19:29:43

Hi,

I am a canadian citizen currently residing in Ottawa, Ontario. I am getting married in April 2015 and want to sponsor my wife to come here as soon as possible. What is my best option to bring her , Inland or Outland application? I was thinking following:

- Inland application:

Tell her to apply for visitor visa before marriage (as after marriage, visitor visa will most likely be rejected) and then bring her here and then apply for Inland application from here itself. Now, after little bit of research I saw that there are some risks in processing like e.g she has to stay in Canada throughout the application process and if she travels outside canada by any chance and is not allowed to enter again the whole application will be cancelled. Longer PR processing time and little bit less flexibility. Also, there is no right to appeal if anything wrong happens. On the other hand, the advantage is that she will be with me and she can also get open work permit within 4 months as per the new pilot program started by CIC. Although, you may have to keep extending your status till you get PR.

Outland Application:

No potential risks seen as long as your application is fully complete. Usually used by people who have their spouses outside Canada and need atleast visitor visa to come to canada. Based on recent applications, the processing time for most average applications looks to be between 5-9 months for new delhi, India although the CIC website specifies much longer processing time. The only risk in this application is that it may take more time than average as mentioned above.

I would like to go for Outland application if it takes less than 7- 8 months. Based on recent statistics, it seems that it should be fine but I wanted to know opinions/suggestions from the people on which is best suitable based on their experience on Inland vs Outland application for PR spouse sponsorship.

Awaiting Feedback/reply related to this. Any suggestions would be very useful.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Vinod



Full House   
Member since: Oct 12
Posts: 2677
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-03-15 21:04:38

Quote:
Originally posted by vinod2187

Hi,

I am a canadian citizen currently residing in Ottawa, Ontario. I am getting married in April 2015 and want to sponsor my wife to come here as soon as possible. What is my best option to bring her , Inland or Outland application? I was thinking following:

- Inland application:

Tell her to apply for visitor visa before marriage (as after marriage, visitor visa will most likely be rejected) and then bring her here and then apply for Inland application from here itself. Now, after little bit of research I saw that there are some risks in processing like e.g she has to stay in Canada throughout the application process and if she travels outside canada by any chance and is not allowed to enter again the whole application will be cancelled. Longer PR processing time and little bit less flexibility. Also, there is no right to appeal if anything wrong happens. On the other hand, the advantage is that she will be with me and she can also get open work permit within 4 months as per the new pilot program started by CIC. Although, you may have to keep extending your status till you get PR.

Outland Application:

No potential risks seen as long as your application is fully complete. Usually used by people who have their spouses outside Canada and need atleast visitor visa to come to canada. Based on recent applications, the processing time for most average applications looks to be between 5-9 months for new delhi, India although the CIC website specifies much longer processing time. The only risk in this application is that it may take more time than average as mentioned above.

I would like to go for Outland application if it takes less than 7- 8 months. Based on recent statistics, it seems that it should be fine but I wanted to know opinions/suggestions from the people on which is best suitable based on their experience on Inland vs Outland application for PR spouse sponsorship.

Awaiting Feedback/reply related to this. Any suggestions would be very useful.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Vinod



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If you want to make an OMELETTE, you have to break a few eggs. RIGHT?? So, either she breaks your heart or the hearts of all of the people where she is staying. (Parents-siblings, friends et all) It is a Tug of war. We also know the results.

If she gets a VISA, there is a BIG IF, then you are all set. They might already know about it. CSIS is monitoring the calls from her. Once she is here, she is here, let it take as long as they want. No skin off your nose.

On the other hand if she has tons of patience and can hang in there for your arrival the next year and travel with you, then, choose the other route. But 8-9 months, looks very unlikely. But who am I? It is a separate process and there will be a lot of hurdles, hoops and loops that you will have to go through and prepare her while you are there. A good exercise for you both. Then wait. Since you know all of the process and the paper work associated with it, you can start with a rough working copy of the same whenever you are ready and with most of the details at hand. You are ahead of the game. Coaching her for an Interview is your job. So, get cracking...

CONRATULATIONS. Now you are engaged. More of the same later.

FH.
Who is the Best Man?



adamthorat   
Member since: Aug 11
Posts: 1041
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-03-15 03:17:05

Outland is faster almost always.

You can always visit India for a short visit , while the application is being processed . Usually it takes 6 months.

Or you can visit her in some other country like US or even Europe , if she comes there as a tourist..not hard to get tourist visas thesdays for these countries, especially if you do some group tours like SOTC etc.

But the chances of her getting a tourist visa to Canada, once the PR application starts are almost NIL.

If she comes here before that on a tourist visa its OK , but then they will suspect your marriage for being fake etc, when you do the PR spousal sponsorhip application. These guys don't care about what happens to your personal life.



irock   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 344
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-03-15 11:18:54

I would prefer the Outland Application option on any day of my life for the following reasons

(a) you want to make it right - Believe me you don't want to take shortcuts with this one. Once you mess up this application with a little bit of doubt, they will screw you with your family like anything. I have heard so many horror stories regarding spouse application being delayed over due to moronic decisions made by applicants...

(b) you have to do this once in your life - why not do it legal way ??? This makes them & you & everybody happy... There is a specific guidelines with what they want us to follow

& the most important one

(c) what's the hurry ?? - After being married for almost 12 years, now whenever I meet or hear somebody getting married, this point always comes to my mind. I know you mentioned that you are getting married in April, but still you can wait for another 10-12 months to actually start a married life (living together FORrrrEVERrrrr-notice the caps) until the application gets processed. After then you are anyways finished.... Believe me you will come to this page & read my advice after 10-12 years of your marriage & think deeply about this :-}

Good luck & keep us posted...


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febpreet   
Member since: Jan 07
Posts: 3252
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-03-15 14:06:09

Quote:
Originally posted by irock
(c) what's the hurry ?? - After being married for almost 12 years, now whenever I meet or hear somebody getting married, this point always comes to my mind. I know you mentioned that you are getting married in April, but still you can wait for another 10-12 months to actually start a married life (living together FORrrrEVERrrrr-notice the caps) until the application gets processed. After then you are anyways finished.... Believe me you will come to this page & read my advice after 10-12 years of your marriage & think deeply about this :-}




I am with you on that - word by word. Aisi bhi kya jaldi hey...



Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-03-15 22:48:20

Quote:
Originally posted by irock

I would prefer the Outland Application option on any day of my life for the following reasons

(a) you want to make it right - Believe me you don't want to take shortcuts with this one. Once you mess up this application with a little bit of doubt, they will screw you with your family like anything. I have heard so many horror stories regarding spouse application being delayed over due to moronic decisions made by applicants...

(b) you have to do this once in your life - why not do it legal way ??? This makes them & you & everybody happy... There is a specific guidelines with what they want us to follow

& the most important one

(c) what's the hurry ?? - After being married for almost 12 years, now whenever I meet or hear somebody getting married, this point always comes to my mind. I know you mentioned that you are getting married in April, but still you can wait for another 10-12 months to actually start a married life (living together FORrrrEVERrrrr-notice the caps) until the application gets processed. After then you are anyways finished.... Believe me you will come to this page & read my advice after 10-12 years of your marriage & think deeply about this :-}

Good luck & keep us posted...




I am fully agree with Irock on this. No playing with CIC - its a big risk.

Just wait for normal process if everything OK then max 6 months.

on early advice: DO NOT RUSH ON APPLICATION - verify all information again and again - MOST IMP QUESTION AND ANSWERS -

- keep very sort and clean proofs ( email, phone calls and still CIC give more important to Photos of events -

communication has to continue even after you return to Canada ( keep proofs) - Send gifts ( not online) by Delivery ( Especially on imp dates)

If possible Visit here again even for short period of time - keep proofs ( air ticket, photos etc..)

AGAIN, DO NOT PLAY WITH FIRE - if things goes slightly wrong in CIC you will be stuck and life will be hell.



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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 18:28:58

+1 to iRock.

Out of Canada applications are processed faster than inland applications.


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