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gktaurus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 16:21:19

Not sure why there is no discussion regarding the federal leaders debate yesterday. Rather, it seems the Desi community is more interested in some riskshaw pullers rights in Maharashtra, existence of GOD, the refugees and keeping / converting people to stay in India.

For those who do not know what I am talking about, the federal elections are scheduled in one month in Oct and there was a debate among the 3 leaders. This happens at various parts of the country and last night, it was in Calgary.

There were some interesting discussions about economy, refugees etc. In my opinion, Harper was better prepared to address these issues. What you all think?



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 16:42:10

Thanks for bringing this up ... I viewed 15-20 minutes of it .

a. Justin Trudeau : We will start with a deficit budget by investing heavily into transit & infrastructure kick starting the economic upward spiral and the balance the books in 2019. We will take from the wealthier and provide to the poorer. Levy taxes on small business.

b. Thomas Mulcair : We are a family of public servants. My wife works as a psychologist , one son is a teacher and the other cop. We will levy taxes on business and give more benefits to people as well as increase minimum wages to $15/- so that housing and education becomes affordable.

c. Harper : We will not increase taxes which are already so high. Increasing taxes will make business cut jobs and increase unemployment .. We will carry a balanced approach investing in infrastructure and transit without deficit spending. We will also increase benefits. In 2008 ,against the world's economies , Canada sailed through well and steady.

My vote for Harper as well.


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gktaurus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 16:52:30

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Originally posted by Fido

Thanks for bringing this up ... I viewed 15-20 minutes of it .

a. Justin Trudeau : We will start with a deficit budget by investing heavily into transit & infrastructure kick starting the economic upward spiral and the balance the books in 2019. We will take from the wealthier and provide to the poorer. Levy taxes on small business.

b. Thomas Mulcair : We are a family of public servants. My wife works as a psychologist , one son is a teacher and the other cop. We will levy taxes on business and give more benefits to people as well as increase minimum wages to $15/- so that housing and education becomes affordable.

c. Harper : We will not increase taxes which are already so high. Increasing taxes will make business cut jobs and increase unemployment .. We will carry a balanced approach investing in infrastructure and transit without deficit spending. We will also increase benefits. In 2008 ,against the world's economies , Canada sailed through well and steady.

My vote for Harper as well.



You summarized it correctly about the 3 on the economy. I could not get it on how to they plan to create or sustain jobs or their stand on refugees? what do you think?



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 17:20:46

I am sorry I did not view the refugee part.

On creating jobs here's what I understood.

a. Justin Trudeau : Invest in transit & infrastructure heavily even @ the cost of deficit funding. Once the economy kick starts and there are jobs and prosperity , taxes and profitability will fill back the deficit in 2019 .... Very risky proposition.

b. Stephen Harper : Conservative approach ... Will not deficit spend and continue investment in infrastructure and other areas at a sustainable pace.

c. Tom Mulcair : Increase taxes on business and use that towards generating employment and benefiting the economy.


Was an interesting debate .. Surprising to know that in an effort to out speak the other / prove their point , they were little better than school kids , rambling together at a lot of times .. esp Trudeau ... Mulcair was slightly polite though waiting for the compere to allow him to speak.


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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 17:37:15

Harper sounds promising again, however his fall down is on two counts. One, his middle policy falters and aligns more or less with the GoP, and second he's quite uncertain on the Refugees. C-51 is another thorn in his crown. Likewise, he didn't quite fair well on the Healthcare spending and minimizing the ER wait times.

Mulcair is not quite up to it, I still think. I am a bit with Harper for risking the economy with Mulcair in the helm. Not that Harper is doing any good job with it.

Trudeau could get my vote if he clears his stance on the bill C-51 and Healthcare. I am with him on most of everything else, especially infrastructure spending.

Still an undecided voter, but the choice is clearly between Harper and Trudeau.



hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 17:59:47

Didn't watch the debate so cannot comment on that. However :

1. Harper is on a sticky wicket on a lot of accounts - C-51, Middle east, Funding cuts on a lot of projects, bullying behavior, senate spending scandal etc. Not sure if I can credit him for the creative balancing of the books just before the election. That said he is the most experienced of the lot - the known enemy kind of guy.

2. Trudeau - has very risky ideas right from deficit funding to pot legalising. Also, not experienced in foreign policy/affairs. Will avoid him as much as possible.

3. Mulcair - is the dark horse. The traditional pro-union/left leaning policies of NDP are very 19th century stuff, but he is being smart and talking in a 'conservative' tone. He might win more seats than Trudeau, but I would hate an NDP majority.

My prediction is a minority govt by Harper with Mulcair's support.

Hiren



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-09-15 18:19:47

Anybody other than Trudeau please ...

Though I dislike NDP s middle east policy of bringing back the Canadian Forces out of Iraq & Syria (imagine how may refugees more would be created by ISIL with lesser force to stop them )

I also know that because of Harper's tough stance on Islamists esp in Canada , the Muslims will vote against him. .. But I do appreciate his tough stance knowing that he would lose votes .

He is a strong leader and all said and done Canada did fare enviably during the economic recession of 2008.


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