Location: China, will move to Canad
Posted on: 19-01-05 23:45:35
My 2 yuans....
Lets not digress into a whole new hot topic of sexual behaviour., every animal will have it and we are doing pretty much Ok on those fronts. 
The main topic we are discussing here why men have commanding previliges at home or society on the whole.
To be frank, nobody is born like that !! its the upbringing that matters., and every thing even the very first word he learns are from his mother. The father guy does not even play a role in a childs life until the kid starts walking.
The child will learn the disparity if any from his surroundings., if the moms wanna treat the guy like king., then he is gonna live life like a king !!! As long as my experience goes., its an unwritten rule that daughter is close to dad and son is more close to the mom .., If a guy gets used to all the previliges then, its mostly coz he was given all those during his learning days., and when he is a grown man he is gonna expect the same from his family,. society ., everywhere...
The problem now is ., our society has got woven into the way it is right now.., and it is slowly getting changed as "modernization" creeps into the minds of the younger generation. But, it is gonna take a long time till we actually see the change at a "grass root" level , 
. I totally agree that there is an issue here., and we can solve it. To all the female folks out there., keep heart.., its not over yet.... if you father was MCP, there is nothing you can do about it., if your husband or brother is a MCP., you can try your level best to correct him.., but, the next generation is totally in your hands.., your sons are gonna learn things from you., so., instead of cribbing that all the bad things happend in your life ., try to correct the root cause and make someother girl's life happy... Someone big had said a long time ago., if you educate a man., you educate a family., but, if you educate a woman, then you educate the whole society !!! Its hightime you use the power you dont know you have !!!
regards
kumaran
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I guess the discussion has deviated a bit from the pole ....... What "worship" really was taunting at was ..... how are we MCP's COPING with the fact that there is a bit of equally distributed domestic chores among the couples .....
Well ..... lady you've managed to , intentionally or unintentionaly, stir up quiet a tornado ..... a lot of US chose to ignore this thread and yet the worse of US got suckered into giving our two cents.
Just to let you know ..... WE LOVE IT ........ for a change women are held accountable for their barks and bites, whether domestic or otherwise.
Coming from a household where siblings were treated equally and women were placed at a high pedestial ..... and hearing stories of dominence and uneven landscape for the two genders...... guess Canada has to a certain extent proven to be a haven for the suppressed ... yet at the same time has held the "fairer" sex accountable for providing equally for the family .
again ..... YES ..... WE ARE LOVING IT.
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Kumaran, Skywalker
a long lost thread getting revived again.....wow!! Thanks for being so down to Earth.
Actually was disappointed by the initial response but it somehow proved the fact that it takes a lot for a man to admit that he can change too as per the circumstances......
I fully agree , Kumaran, that it is the women who can bring about the change but fathers too are required to set examples as a child observes very keenly the way his family interacts and communicates.
Worship
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It is so simple to be happy but so difficult to be simple
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Orginally posted by worship
So how does it feel to help doing the dishes, clothes, ironing, clean up the loos, hoovering, getting the kids ready for school and go to work. No Sakubai here!!
How long did it take to break the shackles? are they truly broken?? Do you still say” yeh mera kaam nahin hain” BE HONEST!
What happens when your parents visit you and see you buttering the toast for your wife......is it ‘hai hai... mere bete ne kabhi ek chummach bhi nahin uthayi thi aur yahain to becharra tch..tch’....To be prepared is one thing but to actually be in the situation must be tough......so lets hear it!
Acclimatizing plays, a major part in achieving success isn’t it.
Worship
So you found the initial responses boring since you did not get what you expected- but how could you. If the guys who are/were used to Jara Paani laana, would neve confess that they had to change, right?
So to make it more interesting, let's even put the question to the 'fairer' (I could agree to softer, but fairer???........in none the meanings that the word can possibly signify) gender as you say: How do they cope with the fact that now they have to do with whatever tasty or rotten chai they have to drink prepared by their husbands in the morning, and drink it to satisfy their need of caffeine and nothing else (in my case, the problem is now my wife does not like the tea she has to prepare for herself at times!!), or how do they like putting on un ironed trousers and shirts to get dressed up in a hurry for office, or what do they do when they forget their wallet or office keys office at home, or to shovel the snow in the morning to be able to leave for office (either with or without husband), or bear the politics in office and the unreasonable demands of their female boss, or when they have to go to the gas station and fill up the car tank themselves or go to a repair shop and get that starter problem solved or the tires changed, or talk to the guy from Income Tax office about their tax returns, and u know, things like that..............
And then how do they react when their elders visit them and then forcibly they have to sit in the same room, and that too wearing jeans or pants and blouses which show more than they hide, while earlier in India that would be unthinkable for them because of 'sharm aati hai'...........
Chandresh
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Chandresh
Advice is free – lessons I charge for!!
I feel man in western setup change fast from "tauliya lana" attitude to, tauliya washroom mein hai.....chai banadi.....but fairer sex has lot of problem to understand that here in western society they are responsible citizen with confidentiality attached to personal information. Still they expect husband to take care of legal and financial duties.
Man transition phase from pani lana attitude to pani yaha rakha hai is very short and sweet....but I still do see lot of our desi fairer sex waiting for their husband (legal drivers including me) to pick them from subway pickup spots or rather legal drivers waiting in cold to pickup their legal owners.....sometime I wonder fairer sex is really supressed or they behave that way to still have all the advantage????
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Try overtaking child's imagination
Did you guys follow the controversy created by Harvard president's remark about innate abilities of males and females? Do you agree with President's remarks?
Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 30-03-05 21:58:54
Raju..in a way he was right... women who venture into science and engineering are considered "un-sexy" (whatever that may mean).... I wish there were more women in engineering and science. In India (at least in Andhra Pradesh)..women are supposed to enter engineering using the "Womans Quota".. They should dutifully study 4 years of engineering and then ...take the GRE and TOEFL...and then post their profile on shaadi.com !!!! NOw in that context, The president of Harvard was right !.... But it cannot be used as a yardstick for every women.
Worship, looks like you want men to be like Ajay Devgan in Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam !
(Mard ki Mardangi, aurat ko kabu karne mein nain...aurat ki izzat karne mein hain)
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