Draftsman job-I am burnt out !


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
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Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-06-06 11:43:33

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Originally posted by mails4sagar

TK,
all my comments above have been regarding small offices......



M4S,
I did not comment anything about your posts.
Just for the benefit of Cd members :
I had a friend working in a one man architect office in Toronto. He was paid $8 an hour and then it was raised to $9 afetr a year (he studied at the best college in A'bad, Gujarat). I got him a job in my office.
When he announced his resignation at his previous office, the boss was mad at him. He asked him how he could go for an interview while he was working in his office. He said that he had bought a new computer for him at a great cost and how he could leave. He also told him that he was planning to hand over his practice to him once he retired (at $9 salary?). He was a desi married to a british and is in Canada for 30 years. The 2 weeks notice given to the architect was hell period. This is another disadvantage of working in a one man office. The period of notice becomes your worst time of stay in that particular office.
Just one sand on the seashore and my view for information only.
TK A


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mails4sagar   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 310
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-06-06 18:58:10

Tk,

your posts never fail to be "entertaining"....
you always have an anecdote for any situation :)

i do see the point you are trying to convey....
it certainly can be difficult in a smaller office, more so coz we generally tend to have some sort of a personal bonding too....(referring to quitting the job).
i know i m going to have a tough time when i am going to need a long break to visit india soon....

as mentioned earlier, the difference in view are based on personal experiences....

nevertheless, i dont agree with your "perception" about jobs only being good in larger offices/firms......


....... i apologise for the incomplete reply earlier (my boss was "on my back" ;) )


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mails4sagar   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 310
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-06-06 19:02:33

Quote:
Originally posted by paulmat

Hi TK Anna,
I have been seeing a lot of ur postings in the past. But now, I have read thru ur thread about ur job. It was very interesting and detailed. I liked it honestly, and really appreciate your efforts in bringing it up for the benefit of all “Canadian fiancées” across the globe, who could get some ideas about ground reality. I am a guy who has worked only in the gulf all my life and has come across such situations in the Middle East.
Even while working in the ME, I have worked with some Gora's and found that they seldom pushed their subordinates for long hours or weekend work, although they sometimes use a lot of 4 letter words. I guess a lot of it depends on your control of the situation.
In my early years in the Gulf, I was quite ignorant about the construction practices and norms in the region. Will u believe it? I’ve asked my colleague once \\\\\\\"what is that tall giraffe like thing mounted on the truck doing on our site\\\\\\\" all to learn that it was a concrete pump, which I was seeing for the first time in my life. Nevertheless, within a year or 2 I caught up with things and managed to switch jobs and then fell into a comfortable position with things well within my control.
Moving from site, I graduated to tendering, estimation & procurement. Right now I am working as Procurement Manager with a large contracting company with all arab speakers around me.
It sure is hard working in a Multicultural environment. Communication is the key and very important. I felt that you could improve your situation a lot with effective communication.
A few other tips:
1. Always be positive and confident.
2. Never say \\\\\\\"No\\\\\\\" to your boss when he assigns tasks, but you should discuss what you are working on presently, and explain your work load. Ask him which one is on priority.
3. If need be tell him that you need assistants. Best way is to get CV's of suitable candidates and go to him and explain, maybe he would agree if he was in a good mood.
Like u mentioned, a 100 good things go without appreciation, but one grave mistake will cause hell. So the morale of the storey, “try not to make mistakes” Not easy in your profession, Which means that you will need to review all documents produced if need be once or more prior to delivering it.
Quality would sell better with a client than quantity. Leave the choice to him. Offer to deliver a drawing same day without assuring its accuracy or otherwise give him an offer to provide a clean, reviewed and checked drawing devoid of any error or discrepancy in lets say 3 days, I am sure he would buy the later.
Situations do differ from one to another, but I guess by N Large, it all depends on oneself how well he/she can control the situation.
I am a civil Engr and hence do understand ur predicament to a large extend. But am seriously concerned with the work culture in Canadian offices. Being a PR holder and a prospective immigrant myself (done landing last year), I am at serious doubts of obtaining suitable work for one, and now the work culture in offices there. I was indeed hoping that work culture in Canada would be a lot better than in the Gulf. Even if the pay was less( after taxes & stuff) , the hope & thoughts of a good lifestyle, 2 day weekends with family, trips to see & explore Canada, is the major driving force, needless to mention \\\\\\\"children’s education & future prospects\\\\\\\" as all normal “gullfies” would want. Well it’s all a matter of finding jobs I guess, let’s say the right one!!!!!!.
Not all are lucky to land up in their dream jobs immediatly I guess?




Brought up some good points....


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But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any.



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