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rajuu   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 03:28:26

No Andhrite can escape the Telugu poem which starts with Appu ichuvadu ( Money lender ) , Vydyudu ( Doctor ) , eppudu edathegaka paru erun ( ever running stream) ….. This narrates about a village which you should make it a Home. This states you need the above three in every village.

This old poem, I can say, stands valid today.


Who decides that such and such country is of first world (developed)?

Capitalistic countries called them selves of first world by naming the communist world 2nd world and the rest as third world.

With communists gone for ever, have these Countries lost focus on public issues.

Is there a need to change the performance indicators which give them Developed status.

My wife has been suffering from a severe ailment for the last three months, could only see the Family doctor to be informed to see the specialist. The specialist has no time to see her until another two months. Both the GP and the Secretary of the specialist suggested her (over phone) to go to emergency when ever there is a problem and they should not be contacted again. When she approached the Emergency with severe pain, they could see her after three hours to give some pain killers and to tell her to see the specialist as per the appointment after almost two months because there is no immediate danger to life. After two months we feel that the specialist may give dates after another 2/3/4 months or 1 year for surgery . Now I can imagine how many are in queue before and after her and their pathetic situation.

She left for Hyderabad and could see the doctor at Apollo just after 30 minutes of landing. Hope she will be back with medication or surgery before date of appointment by the specialist for second or third opinion in Canada.

Canadians are more tolerant than Indians. Their Doctors are more professional than Indian doctors. However,how inhuman is the system which asks some body to wait for months with sickness.



THANKS FOR THE DOCTOR IN INDIA FOR BEING THERE AND NOT IMMIGRATED TO CANADA. OTHERWISE SHE/ HE COULD BE USEFUL TO CARRY THE PATIENTS TO AIRPORT IN HER/HIS TAXI , HIM/ HER BEING THE DRIVER IN CANADA .

IS THIS A MODERN SOCIETY WE ARE IN.?
ARE THERE ANY POLICY MAKERS AROUND?
ARE THEY WORKING WHERE THEY SHOULD BE
OR
ARE THEY TOO SUFFERING AND WAITING IN THE QUEUE IN THE EMERGENCY FOR THE TREATMENT OR WAITING FOR THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE SPECIALIST AFTER TWO MONTHS or ANOTHER 2MONTHS FOR SURGERY IF DIOGNISED TO BE OPERATED UPON.

Am I being negative???



rajand   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 601
Location: Baroda, India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 11:56:26

See other posts on this forum. Many others have gone thro' such problems.

My sympathies to you. This unfortunately is one of the many problems plaguing Canada. Ofcourse each country has its own set of problems.

Rgds.

Rajan.


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amitcr   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 154
Location: North York, Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 13:51:02

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[ Their Doctors are more professional than Indian doctors. However,how inhuman is the system which asks some body to wait for months with sickness.


I totally disagree with what you say. My expereince has shown that Indian doctors are way way way more human and professional then Canadian docs. And a million times more knowledgeable too.

I have a small stye on my left outer eye lid since September 2005. Since it was the first problem i had here, i called a GP who refused to see me since he was not taking any new patients. Then i went to a walk in clinic and all he said was do hot compresses. No solution till Feb 2006. My mom is a doc in India and even though she prescribed anti-biotics i couldn't get them here without docs' prescription. My mom was coming for a visit in may. She asked our Indian eye specialist and he prescribed anti-biotics, eye ointment and drops cuz by now the stye had become a chronic infection. he asked me to use drops and ointment for 6 weeks. I am on that medication now and the stye has burst but infection continues. 9 months to treat a small stye infection. If this is first world, then i am happy in third world. This is the level of treatment docs here give for a minor infection lke that. Only god help me if i have something serious.

I even had a root canal done from a dentist in june 2005. Till today whenever i floss near that tooth it pains. Had a RCT done in India and never felt like anything was ever done near that tooth.





Iceberg   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 919
Location: GTA and beyond

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 22:17:23

India offers surgery in a hurry
Jun. 17, 2006. 12:00 PM
PRITHI YELAJA
STAFF REPORTER


NEW DELHI—When his doctor in Nova Scotia treated his chest pain with cholesterol pills and a wait-and-see attitude, Richard Johnson decided to get a second opinion — and ended up fast-tracked into surgery to open his blocked arteries.


Read the full article here http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1150494610712&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home



rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 22:56:26

I think some of the views expressed here are quite biased against Canada. Definitely Canada does not have a perfect system but neither does India.

Dentists are not covered by OHIP, so you can go to any dentist you like. If you like Indian dentists, you can go to Indian dentists in Canada. Saying that same doctor would have done a good job in India rather than Canada is not quite right. There are some good doctors and some not so good doctors everywhere.

Is it fair to compare Canada's govenment-run universal health care system to a topmost private hospital in India? Queues and wait times are long partly because it is a universal health care system, lack of doctors, and funding. Unfortunately, international medical graduates have not been properly utilized by system.

Indian medical system is driven by money. If you have money, you will get all the care you need (likely in a private hospital).

If you look from poorest of the poor person's point of view, things would look a lot different.



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diamond_n   
Member since: Jan 06
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-06-06 02:23:59

100% agree with you there, Rajcanada!

Amitcr, when are you returning to India for good then?
Just to caution you, though.
1) I live in a Metro city in India (half a kilometer off the main "life-line road" of the city) and the garbage in our part of the city has not been collected since October last year.
Why on earth not? Oh you see, the roads are not upto the mark for the garbage collector to bring his cart on. So how come the roads were not made "pucca"? Didn't we pay taxes? Of course we did! And there even was money assigned for proper roads for this part of the city! So what happened? Well, there was this l-i-t-t-le problem of the assigned money having being used up and no one (in the city's municipal corporation) has a clue to where it was spent. Hope the city you return to in India is in a better shape.

2)Another word of caution-- be careful if you are riding a two-wheeler, specially in the night, even if is on the main roads of a city. The PWD digs up roads for various reasons, forgets to fill them back in and rarely puts a sign to caution anyone. My colleague lost her nephew -- the bike disbalanced on one such trench (can't call them pot-holes anymore) and one of the rods lying on a cart nearby went straight through his ribs and punctured his lungs. Why didn't the boy's parents sue someone? Oh well, you know a similar incident happened in the country's capital. The last we heard, the bereaved parents were in an extended legal battle cause every government dept involved in various aspects of roads building/maintaining were shifting the blame onto the next one.

But my India is still the best!



rajuu   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 99
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-06-06 02:26:05

Again which poor. I am a poor man in Canada but will come in to the rich class in India. Pain is the same who and where ever you are.

Now being Canadian PR ,I must be as proud as any Citizen of this country. I felt very bad to convey my family in India to take care of the visit of my wife for medical treatment.

My father, a Doctor himself left England in his early thirties to settle in a remote Indian village, did not believe the real situation here.

I am not old enough to understand the medical system in Canada due to my recent immigration. It is the medical profession which has to come out and solve the problem. Together with the state they should ease the situation with both long and short term plans.





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