To be very frank, you know what that means? That is your worth in the employers eyes. He thinks anything above 28 K and you are dispensable. Best is to get a new job and give your employer a notice. See what happens. Does he negotiate or lets you go. If he lets you go assume you were not worth more, but if he sits to negotiate with you he has definitely milked you for years and it is time you start getting tough. In ant case is 28 K not too low a salary to work for 5 years. Do you imply this what all architects get in Canada?
How can one survive? I find it difficult to maintain on 42K.

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Dear CD's,
The salary in our office is always confidential. Though there was no verbal warning that our salary is confidential, all our pay cheques are given in confidence.
When i joined in 2002 of April, My salary was $10 an hour. After 5 years, I earn a salary of 28 K a year (Annual with no overtime). In our office, there are just 2 people with more than 5 years experience (me and another guy) . The other one is an aged architect (65 years) and he earns 32K. He has been in our office for 10 years.
Recently , many people ran away from our office and hence he recruited 4 new people. In that only one is a senior person with 8 years Canadian experience. the other 3 are fresh to Architecture (although they have worked with AUtocad in some Canadian factory).
2 days back, I learnt the Administrator password to our company. I was thus able to see all our pay cheque transaction. I was shocked in learning how much the new comers were earning. All the 3 new comers were earning 32K a year while the expereinced new comer was earning 40K a year. I spoke to the other aged architect and he was also shocked. He told me that our Boss was taking us for granted and that he was exploiting us.
Has any Desi been in a similar situation like this. If so, what was the steps taken to inform the employer that he has to be fair to his senior employees. The new people do not know a thing and we are teaching them each day. I canot also directly tell the boss that he is giving us less, because then he will ask as to how i know that my salary is less.
Running away (with out giving notice) is an option but how do i teach him a lesson that he canot exploit people?
Your inputs welcomed.
TK A

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Leave!

Find new employment at the appropriate salary range for someone with many years of experience, give 2 weeks notice notice and leave like a gentleman. If your employer wants someone of your caliber - he'll be forced to pay. And that is vindication enough.

BV

Dear CD's,
Thanks for the replies. Almost all of you have told what i already knew. Dimple had touched upon the situation of our times in most offices. I was was just peeved to know that my employer had made a fool out of me and the old architect who are 5+ years in the office and who work on most saturdays and sundays (w/o overtime) and who have really taken the jobs of the runaway people and finished even their work along with our work within a given deadline. I know how to teach my employer a lesson but just wanted to find out (from CD's) as to how i can make my boss regret for discriminating in salary. Except the new architect (who gets 40K) all are immigrants. Our boss always told in the meetings that he does not belive much in God but is true to his heart and now i know that he was just giving us crap.
I could enter my boss's cabin and ask for atleast a 40K salary (in order to keep up with inflation and to better reflect a remuneration for what i was worth) but i belive that before i do that, I should have a back up job. At this point in time, I do work for my company which no other people in my company (except my boss) can do. If I ask him for salary increase and which he has to give, then I am sure that he will watch each and every move of mine for which i need to be careful.
Anyway, I would welcome further views from CD's (if any).

TK A

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TK,

My advice, to avoid further aggravation find another job and leave. Otherwise, find a lawyer and seek advice whether you could sue for discrimination....though it will be very hard to prove it, and then you did something illegal as well by getting into the files where you had no business to be in. If other employees had told you their salaries willingly or you found their paychecks lying open for anyone to see, it was a different matter. In Federally regulated industries like communication, transportation etc, they are protected by Employment Equity Act., which (is supposed to) protect the people from discrimination. Provincially, there must be something equivalent to it.

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If I ask him for salary increase and which he has to give, then I am sure that he will watch each and every move of mine for which i need to be careful.
Anyway, I would welcome further views from CD's (if any).

TK A

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TK it is good you have irrefutable evidence (regardless how you got it) about this issue, as opposed to hearsay. I think you should think all alternatives on how to find another employment that would pay you for your skill as well as experience. I work for a Govt institute so our salaries are a matter of public knowledge. However, I do run into local new recruits who seem to show a level of disbelief at the numbers. When I suspect somebody is not happy with what they know, I tell them to keep looking for better job and better better pay. How do you go about it? I wouldn't know. I am into academic stuff so there was a simple recourse... like, provide reference from other academics who knew me enough to write a good word. In my case, it worked fine when I told them I can not immediately provide any reference from the current employer. However, I rejected the raise offered by the previous employer once they knew I am on the move. Afterall, that job was temp while the current is a permanent position. I hope you will succeed in your search. I should say hat's off to you for being able to manage your family within your resources. That salary sounds like an awful lot less than what a trained person should be earning in a lousily expensive place like Toronto.

TK,

Forget it and Keep quite and leave at the opportune moment. There are plenty of such stuff happening in GTA.

I can give you two analogies which would highlight your situation:

1.The above said situation is akin to a rape. If the raped goes out and complains that the person has been raped who is perceived to be shamed the Raped or the Rapist. Obviously it is the raped. Keep quiet and quit at the opportune moment.

2.Let us assume you have a mouse which has entered your kitchen in the night and gots its tail stuck in the door ledge. If it makes lot of noice the owner of the house will rush into the kitchen turn the lights on and smash the mouse with a big bat. The other option is for the mouse to cut itself from its tail and run away and once again whose loss is it ?. It is the loss for the mouse as it'll be bleeding to death.Hence it is better for the mouse to hide behind the ledge, bear the pain and jump out out and run for its life when the door is opened in the morning.

Hence KEEP QUIET and EJECT at the RIGHT/OPPORTUNE moment.

My 2 Pennys !.

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