Amazing but True: Software engineer available in GTA for CAD 60/Day + accom
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This is happening in US too. The offshore folks arrive in US at the pretext of attending meetings/trainings on business visa and then they work at the client premises for 3-6 months for a daily stipend between $75-$100, which is 100% non-taxable. Once their visa term is over, they go back to India and arrive again as visitors within a matter of 2 weeks. I know all these because I personally deal with such folks at my workplace, which happens to be a major bank in the US.
US immigration wouldn't be able to track these folks because no real proof exists to prove that these folks actually 'worked'. The employer, while filing their tax returns, show the money paid to these folks as a business expense rather than a salary and hence these folks are totally off the radar.
Though these folks are hardworking, they lack big time in etiquette/communication skills and some even go to the extent of folding their hands or standing up before clients. They stay in crammed apartments without any social life and due to the non-availability of car, whenever they go for grocery shopping, they roll the shopping carts all the way from the stores to their apartments. Even if they're at the beach, they'll dressed in full formal clothing with company id cards hanging from their hips. They wear cheap sun glasses and walk in groups, making us wonder if they're bunch of blind people trying to find their way. To top all these, some wear lungis and roam around the apartment amenities talking loudly over the phone in murdered English or native language . The phone, by the way is provided by the employer and it changes hands whenever a new batch arrives from offshore.
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Posted on: 21-06-09 17:01:25
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Originally posted by blorean
I work for an IT consulting company. We have offices in India. All the development work from here goes to our company in India. The Indian extension of our organization does just that. Now they do hire a lot of senior people but majority of them are junior that the senior guys have to mentor.
As of today, when an IT resource applies for a job in a company in India, it has become a norm for the resources to ask for "onsite oppurtunity" which means a short trip to US or Canada depending on where the parent company/client is located.
When the offshore team is engaged on a big project, some of the resources are brought here on training for a short period. It is a win-win situation. The offshore resources get the "onsite" experience they asked for and the clients get to see some of these offshore resources. On such assignments, the offshore resources are paid a daily stipend of $50 if they opt for the company to provide accommodation or $108 if they chose to find their own accomodation (relative's place, friend's place etc). These resources get their regular pay in India...
That is the reality I am aware of and work closely with.
So you see how one can take a legitimate operation such as this, give it a twist and make it seem like a scam...like the dumb and retarded OP?
Coming on business Visa and doing coding/testing is not permitted either in US or Canada. But Most Indian IT companies bring people to US/Canada for "Business Discussions" (while they really come here for development/testing many times) as workpermit process takes longer. Once they are in the country by the time their "Business Visa" expires they are brought in on work permit. This is what those big onsite/offshore companies do.
Besides this, it is a well known fact that Canadian Work Permit scheme is very well abused especially by some small desi consulting companies in Toronto. These companies charge anywhere between 7 to 12 thousand dollars to just bring a person into Canada as a 'software engineer' . In the past that was faster route than immigration to get a Canadian PR.
I personally know of at least 3 people who came as 'software engineers' who came on such work permit for two different desi consulting companies in Toronto and used to do household chores for their 'employer'.
Unfortunately the market has few individuals that can, will and actually does whatever it takes to earn a buck or two. It would be really bad if any of those have 3-4 yrs college/university education in their work field. I'm sure those individuals have some constraints of their own. Nothing against them. Hope they get some good break.
One thing that I really hate is that lawyers can prove anything.
I have seen what Delhite has said - this is very deterimental to the Canadian IT folks ..... Clients earn , vendors earn , incoming IT pros earn , but the local IT guys lose ...... its a nexus which makes a mockery of the Canadian work permit system which says that if there s local talent , people from outside would not be brought in for the same work ......
Lets do something about this . I am sure if one / two of these scandals are disclosed the others will beat retreat ........
What can be done if one is aware of such a malpractice - whom to report to ?
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Fido.
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Originally posted by blorean
...like the dumb and retarded OP?
unwanted , unappreciated and avoidable comment .
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Fido
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Originally posted by blorean
...like the dumb and retarded OP?
unwanted , unappreciated and avoidable comment .
So is yours...
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