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Posted on: 24-06-09 13:42:25
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Originally posted by Fido
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Originally posted by web2000
I think that u need to read the original post. They are not visitors. They come on work permit as the OP described.
So work permit is legal activity and they got right to work here at any competitive prices which we don't digest.
I agree - although I ve seen people coming on visit visas but if thats happening through work permits , it appears to be a bigger problem -- Canada has outlined that foreigners will be brought in ONLY when there s no sufficient skills with in ....... I wonder how they can succeed in distorting the figures when there s unemployed skilled people available in Canada .....
I m sure its a simple question which needs to be brought to the attention of the Agencies or media and as I have been saying corrective measures might be enforced .
Then who is responsible for this? I don't think that it is the company which brings people here or the people who come here on WP are doing anything bad. Both these parties will think about their own profit.
So, the immigration authority should have good understanding with the HR about the unemployment status so that they can decide who should be allowed on WP and which work force is in shortage in the country.
So don't blame the people who come here on WP. Once they are in the country on WP, they are legal.
No one is blaming the people who are coming in . We are blaming the regulations which allow this and also the Corporations who bring people on visit visas and get them to work on projects .
If the loop holes are plugged , such inflow can be restricted to an extent and the PRs will benefit .
All we need is a couple of companies which are doing this and the Authorities where they can be complained at .... Does anyone know the most effective Authority in this regard .
Remember the E Health would have continued to be skimmed had the report not come out in the media ...... If media could do an article , that will be a good way to go .
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Fido
Does anyone know the most effective Authority in this regard .
HRSDC (Human Resources and Skills Development Canada) might be the one.
Here's the link which might interest to some of you:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/corporate/facts/foreign_workers.shtml
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It seems you missed the point .
The Q ia about WPs & Visitors VS PRs & Citizens . If you are a PR you are very well eligible to the worforce . The problem comes when PR s with same skills are not having opportunities since the jobs are being dished outside .
What difference does it make if somebody enters the country as a PR or on a WP? The natives will always cry foul that immigrants are coming in hordes and taking away their jobs or stiffening the competition. Funny part is that now you being on the other side of the desk, speak the same language. That my friend, is the point.
You obviously don't know what you are speaking. A person with PR has an obligation to live in Canada . These are people who are committed to permanently living here with families and are people who often left good careers to make Canada their own country
And a person in WP has no such obligation to live here in Canada certain number of days. Besides as per law the employer is supposed to look for some one who is a Citizen or PR before granting a WP
Ditto . Some people don't know what they are speaking about ......... Perceptions do change when you change sides ..... Thats transition .....
Finally you know what I meant by being on the other side of the desk. See, it wasn't hard.. you just need to make the extra effort...blame it on the weak cells..
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There s a lot of difference b/w coming as a PR and working and coming as a visitor and working - the same difference b/w legal and illegal and you've got to be a moron if you can't tell the difference .
Of course you have to be a moron if you can't tell the difference...or in your case...read properly. This is from your post that I replied to.."How can you bring people in a particular technology from outside when sufficient skill is available with in the country ?"
We were discussing why would companies hire foreign workers and not those who come to the country on visitors visa and over stay illegally. Am sure you can find a mirror nearby, that would help you looking at a moron and thus straighten up your definition a little bit.
And talking about legality, one has to get a LMO in order to hire a foreign worker, which is provided by Service Canada, a government entity. And the LMO is issued only when the stats show that there is actually a shortage of that particular skill.
Some people come here on a WP and then steer towards getting the permanent residency, which is a faster way. Just because someone waited for x number of years outside Canada to get a PR doesn't mean that other people can't take the faster route.
Even if someone applies for a PR from outside Canada, there is a category called 'arranged employment' category, which allows a person to fast track his/her application if they already have secured a job. Now be a baby again and cry out loud that the government should not allow people to immigrate under that category as there a lot of unemployed people already in Canada.
You have a habit of flying off the tangent --- earlier you were claiming to know my past ... what happened to that ???
Dido boy.... I guess the cells are weaker than I though....If you still didn't get what I meant, probably you never would. Stop trying, might end up with a headache ...
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If you were to read my post clearly (against your attitude perse ) .... I am emphasizing that these cos are using visit visas to fly by the Officials and use these people on Projects ....... So all your reasoning is digressed .
For the nth time Einstein...there is no mention of a visitors visa here..."How can you bring people in a particular technology from outside when sufficient skill is available with in the country ?"
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How can the stats show that there s a shortage of people in a particular area when there are people in that field unemployed and looking for opportunities ..... ?? If it does , then the stats is perhaps rigged and needs to be questioned .
Which field in particular are you talking about and where are you getting your stats that there are people available in 'that' particular field?
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Either ways , there s a scam in such situations which needs to be plugged . It needs to be brought out in the open .....
It is very much in open, it has been there for a very long time and this is not the first time some little babies are crying over it as if somebody else has been given their favorite toy to play with.
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I don't know where your posts fit in :
Of course you don't.... you can blame those weak cells again. Boy they are giving you a hard time today... aren't they?....
Hey guys,
It doesn't look like this discussion is going anywhere...it's now mostly a ping-pong match between 2 or 3 regular posters.
You guys are welcome to continue this on email or PM.
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Originally posted by pratickm
Hey guys,
It doesn't look like this discussion is going anywhere...it's now mostly a ping-pong match between 2 or 3 regular posters.
You guys are welcome to continue this on email or PM.
rest is up to you of coiurse
Very easy to say. But let that $5 one's get PR and try to get job and he dont get one and they had to survive with family... Most of this $5 are singles or come here without family member.. or if family member comes they live in sain....trying to save every penny multiply by 40 all the time....
By working hours and hours they lose their health..no one here to cook so live mostly on road..
other side is true also.... The one PR holder was also same in line like $5 ... before get PR status..
on PR status the one had to survive with family and stay here forever..that's not easy like working with 5$ and go with multiply by 40...
About company...oh ! don't you know consulting firm based here..they don't do this..they are also well know for long hours..and less pay..
ALL ARE SAME
