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sid09   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 01:33:53

Dear all,

I am a Canadian citizen living in India. Both me and my son (who was born in Canada) are Canadian citizens.
My wife left for India (family reasons) after completing her 1095 days of continuous physical presence in Canada, and after applying for Canadian citizenship.
We have a local address in Canada so we believe that the test notifications etc. for my wife will be received by us.
Will my wife's absence from Canada after applying for citizenship be objectionable to the citizenship judge at the time of her citizenship test? Will her citizenship timeline be longer due to the absence?
If the judge decides that the citizenship is not granted to my wife, can she continue to keep her PR status alive while living in India, since our son and me are Canadian citizens?

Your comments are most appreciated.



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 11:03:52

Once citizenship requirements have been met, the application should be valid.
As long as she is able to appear for all required events (tests, oaths, hearing - if required), her process should not take longer than others in the same queue.
Of course keep in mind that she'll need to be prepared to travel at a moment's notice.
Often the test notification and oath notifications are received only a few days before the event.
As soon as the letter is received, whoever is checking your mailbox should inform her immediately and she may have to travel within 1 or 2 days.


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ved2007   
Member since: Aug 08
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 15:41:17

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Once citizenship requirements have been met, the application should be valid.
As long as she is able to appear for all required events (tests, oaths, hearing - if required), her process should not take longer than others in the same queue.
Of course keep in mind that she'll need to be prepared to travel at a moment's notice.
Often the test notification and oath notifications are received only a few days before the event.
As soon as the letter is received, whoever is checking your mailbox should inform her immediately and she may have to travel within 1 or 2 days.



Thanks pratickm for your comments.

We think we should be able to appear in time for all the required events (i.e tests, oaths, hearing etc)
I would also like to know according to your opinion, is it a high chance or sureity that my wife's case will be directed to a hearing after her test?
The reason I ask is because after the test (in my experience) there is an interview with the citizenship judge for all applicants scheduled for the test and there are questions asked about intention of leaving country etc.
At this point, my wife will not be at an advantage and I would like to know if there is anything she should say/avoid saying that will divert the case towards a hearing?



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 16:24:20

Quote:
Originally posted by ved2007
The reason I ask is because after the test (in my experience) there is an interview with the citizenship judge for all applicants scheduled for the test and there are questions asked about intention of leaving country etc.

I know of no such interview.
There may be differences between different local citizenship offices but at least here in the Toronto area, there is no follow-up interview after the test.
I have never heard of an automatic interview for each applicant after the test.
Is it something recent?

The only interview is if ( a ) applicant fails the test ( b ) random QC interview or ( c ) some fact or discrepancy in the application comes to light that requires further probing
Quote:

At this point, my wife will not be at an advantage and I would like to know if there is anything she should say/avoid saying that will divert the case towards a hearing?

In case of a hearing, you _have_ to be completely open.
There is no question of avoiding to say or not say any particular thing.
The judge will ask questions (type of questions depend on the reason for the hearing referral) - answer the questions clearly, briefly and without too much rambling explanations.
Assume that the judge knows everything about you.
Often they have more information about a person's background than what they reveal.

If they ask about reason of absence from Canada, provide the true reason.
Bottom line - if you have nothing to hide, hide nothing.


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ved2007   
Member since: Aug 08
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 16:54:16

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Originally posted by ved2007
The reason I ask is because after the test (in my experience) there is an interview with the citizenship judge for all applicants scheduled for the test and there are questions asked about intention of leaving country etc.

I know of no such interview.

The notice for citizenship test that I received has the following written on it:
(It is a yellow colored page which contains the checklist of documents to be brought to the test- this page is printed in English on one side and French on the other)

"Please allow between 1 & 2 hours following the time of your appointment -- ALL APPLICANTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH A CITIZENSHIP OFFICER AFTER THE TEST
"

There may be differences between different local citizenship offices but at least here in the Toronto area, there is no follow-up interview after the test.
I have never heard of an automatic interview for each applicant after the test.
Is it something recent?

Perhaps this is recent ...

The only interview is if ( a ) applicant fails the test ( b ) random QC interview or ( c ) some fact or discrepancy in the application comes to light that requires further probing
Quote:

At this point, my wife will not be at an advantage and I would like to know if there is anything she should say/avoid saying that will divert the case towards a hearing?

In case of a hearing, you _have_ to be completely open.
There is no question of avoiding to say or not say any particular thing.
The judge will ask questions (type of questions depend on the reason for the hearing referral) - answer the questions clearly, briefly and without too much rambling explanations.
Assume that the judge knows everything about you.
Often they have more information about a person's background than what they reveal.

If they ask about reason of absence from Canada, provide the true reason.
Bottom line - if you have nothing to hide, hide nothing.



ved2007   
Member since: Aug 08
Posts: 64
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 16:55:37

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Originally posted by ved2007
The reason I ask is because after the test (in my experience) there is an interview with the citizenship judge for all applicants scheduled for the test and there are questions asked about intention of leaving country etc.

I know of no such interview.
There may be differences between different local citizenship offices but at least here in the Toronto area, there is no follow-up interview after the test.
I have never heard of an automatic interview for each applicant after the test.
Is it something recent?

The only interview is if ( a ) applicant fails the test ( b ) random QC interview or ( c ) some fact or discrepancy in the application comes to light that requires further probing
Quote:

At this point, my wife will not be at an advantage and I would like to know if there is anything she should say/avoid saying that will divert the case towards a hearing?

In case of a hearing, you _have_ to be completely open.
There is no question of avoiding to say or not say any particular thing.
The judge will ask questions (type of questions depend on the reason for the hearing referral) - answer the questions clearly, briefly and without too much rambling explanations.
Assume that the judge knows everything about you.
Often they have more information about a person's background than what they reveal.

If they ask about reason of absence from Canada, provide the true reason.
Bottom line - if you have nothing to hide, hide nothing.




The notice for citizenship test that I received has the following written on it:
(It is a yellow colored page which contains the checklist of documents to be brought to the test- this page is printed in English on one side and French on the other)

"Please allow between 1 & 2 hours following the time of your appointment -- ALL APPLICANTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH A CITIZENSHIP OFFICER AFTER THE TEST
"

There may be differences between different local citizenship offices but at least here in the Toronto area, there is no follow-up interview after the test.
I have never heard of an automatic interview for each applicant after the test.
Is it something recent?

Perhaps this is recent ...



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-09 18:51:22

Quote:
Originally posted by ved2007
The notice for citizenship test that I received has the following written on it:
(It is a yellow colored page which contains the checklist of documents to be brought to the test- this page is printed in English on one side and French on the other)

"Please allow between 1 & 2 hours following the time of your appointment -- ALL APPLICANTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH A CITIZENSHIP OFFICER AFTER THE TEST
"
Perhaps this is recent ...

Yeah I've never seen that before.
So it's probably recent.
What citizenship office are you going to?
My apologies for the previous claim that no interview is required after the test.


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"Mah deah, there is much more money to be made in the destruction of civilization than in building it up."

-- Rhett Butler in "Gone with the Wind"




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