Really? It all started in 1971? What happened before that - did everyone mind their own business? Way to oversimplify...
I for one am glad that America is "finguring" in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, NK etc. They don't always get it right, but it is still a 100 times better than China, Russia or some nutcase in the middle east doing the same (which they will if they're not scared of a greater power)
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Well said, BL. I am also glad that US is "finguring" in these countries.
Otherwise one day we would have woken up with funny fanatic ideologies being forced down upon us by hook or by crook. There would be no freedom of speech or religion anymore.
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"After climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb." (Nelson Mandela)
Some CD members have typical Pakistani mind set. People from Nation of beggars live on charity and generosity of USA but still blame it for its problems. These people from Nation of beggars forget that they had problems much before Afghan occupation by USSR and subsequent talibanization with USA money. The fact is that the people of Nation of beggars have a very antiquated and 7th century mentality . They treated dark skinned Bangladesh people with contempt and as slaves and hence they separated. It is sad that Islamic population of India/Pakistan?bangladesh have yet not recognized that they have "Indian" heritage and superior Islamic people of Arab and Turkish descent do not gave damn to their shared faith. For them, the subcontinent people are still slaves. I would never be proud to acknowledge that my ancestor invaded India, raped my great , great, great grandmother, converted her forcibly and I ma proud of that heritage. However, Indian subcontinent people (of all the faiths) are strange animals. Their quest for knowledge is confined to what their preachers say. They have never attempted to make any independent inquiry. They are destined to be slaves and mules.
If any country adopt some policy , sure they have some calculation behind that .
I am curious to know , HOW USA benefitted from his finguring policy ?
1. What they gain from Vietnam war ?
2. Why they support Iraq against Iran ? What they gain ?
3. What they gain from gulf war ?
4. What they gain from Afghan war ?
5. Why they support Laden / Taliban before 9/11?
6. India asks US support to fight against terrorism for last 25 years but US supporting to the sponsor of terror by millions of $ and weapons .
7. What US gained from supporting pak against India ?
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Originally posted by metouk
If any country adopt some policy , sure they have some calculation behind that .
I am curious to know , HOW USA benefitted from his finguring policy ?
1. What they gain from Vietnam war ?
2. Why they support Iraq against Iran ? What they gain ?
3. What they gain from gulf war ?
4. What they gain from Afghan war ?
5. Why they support Laden / Taliban before 9/11?
6. India asks US support to fight against terrorism for last 25 years but US supporting to the sponsor of terror by millions of $ and weapons .
7. What US gained from supporting pak against India ?
Metouk: I will tell you why US is fingering in most parts of the world.
Please recall the Kandahar IC-814 hijack that took place in 1999. India was helpless enough to fly over to Afghanistan, to handover some of the most wanted terrorists. We were simply unable to pursue the terrorists diplomatically, politically or militarily.
When faced with a similar situation, United States smashed Afghanistan to pieces for harboring their most wanted man, Osama 'dustBin' laden. They did not request or plead. They ordered Afghanistan and Pakistan to provide bases and services.
That is the fundamental difference between India and US.
Indian *cannot* fight Islamic terror the way US can fight the very same enemy. That is the sad truth. The next best thing to do is be on the good side of the strongman.
Pakistan is no longer a pet of US; it is more of a harlot who does things for a certain price. Today, Pakistan is forced to listen to US for the little crumbs that are thrown at them. I am fine with this arrangement.
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Originally posted by metouk
If any country adopt some policy , sure they have some calculation behind that .
I am curious to know , HOW USA benefitted from his finguring policy ?
1. What they gain from Vietnam war ?
2. Why they support Iraq against Iran ? What they gain ?
3. What they gain from gulf war ?
4. What they gain from Afghan war ?
5. Why they support Laden / Taliban before 9/11?
6. India asks US support to fight against terrorism for last 25 years but US supporting to the sponsor of terror by millions of $ and weapons .
7. What US gained from supporting pak against India ?
Metouk: I will tell you why US is fingering in most parts of the world.
Please recall the Kandahar IC-814 hijack that took place in 1999. India was helpless enough to fly over to Afghanistan, to handover some of the most wanted terrorists. We were simply unable to pursue the terrorists diplomatically, politically or militarily.
When faced with a similar situation, United States smashed Afghanistan to pieces for harboring their most wanted man, Osama 'dustBin' laden. They did not request or plead. They ordered Afghanistan and Pakistan to provide bases and services.
That is the fundamental difference between India and US.
Indian *cannot* fight Islamic terror the way US can fight the very same enemy. That is the sad truth. The next best thing to do is be on the good side of the strongman.
Pakistan is no longer a pet of US; it is more of a harlot who does things for a certain price. Today, Pakistan is forced to listen to US for the little crumbs that are thrown at them. I am fine with this arrangement.
I am not questioning US ability to fight against terror . US is super power . But US is the creator of osama , sadam , taliban etc.. etc ... and US is loosing this proxy war . Still US army can not control beyond kabul in afghanistan . US invested heavily in paki but no control over ISI and army . US supported sadam and this man goes beyond control of US and was headache for them for 15 years .
Now question about kandhar incidence , why india didnt act like US , the reason is US . If india act like US then US will come into picture to save paki . I would like to recall 1971 memory where India was in full control of war and was in best position to occupy west pakistan also that time Nixon send 7th fleet to dare India .
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Originally posted by metouk
If any country adopt some policy , sure they have some calculation behind that .
I am curious to know , HOW USA benefitted from his finguring policy ?
1. What they gain from Vietnam war ?
2. Why they support Iraq against Iran ? What they gain ?
3. What they gain from gulf war ?
4. What they gain from Afghan war ?
5. Why they support Laden / Taliban before 9/11?
6. India asks US support to fight against terrorism for last 25 years but US supporting to the sponsor of terror by millions of $ and weapons .
7. What US gained from supporting pak against India ?
Lol! Google about cold war and USA resolve to stop spreading of communism. To properly answer your question, it would require a million pages. You and me cannot read it in our life time! The USA antipathy to India stems from the fact that Nehru was a closet communist. In this fast paced world, no one has time to study negative impact of his dirty mind and dirty politics on India. His policies relegated India by 50 years. His equally dirty daughter destroyed constitution and institutionalized corruption. The twin benefits are now flowing to their family. Nehru_ Indira were rabid but covert anti-Hindu. Now reins are in hands of overtly anti-hindu descendants. Hindu have "lemmings suicide" syndrome. Lol! One can ignore the history but cannot ignore its consequences. Hindu are ignoring the history but cannot avoid the consequences. They lived in slavery and deprivation for 1,000 years. Again they are readying for another millennium.Lol! Blaming USA is a easy way out but is not true.
I have, over the years as a CD member said many times that India is ruled by Islam. Apparently, many do not agree with me. However, the recent developments are very interesting. There is not a single political party in India who wants to associate itself with Modi because they fear that any association would result in loss of Muslim votes without which they cannot come to power. No one is bothered about so called "hindu" votes because slaves do what masters say.
One needs introspection. Blaming Pakistan or USA is of no use.
