New Proposed Citizenship Law - Bill Being tabled in Parliament today


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hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-02-14 18:41:25

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Originally posted by febpreet

From the CIC site:

"As a result of these amendments, applicants will need to be physically present in Canada for a total of four out of their last six years. In addition, they would need to be physically present in Canada for 183 days per year for at least four of those six years."

Not sure when you can file the Citizenship application. If it's 6 years, then why are they promising maximum of 12 months for the Citizeneship processing. Doesn't make any sense at all.



I think the 12 months is time line for 'processing' of citizenship AFTER receiving your application. Not to be confused with 6 years in anyways.

Hope this clarifies.

Hiren



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-02-14 18:58:27

I am aware hccheda,

May be I didn't put it correctly. My question was if you are to file it right after 4 years, and it will be processed in 12 months time, where is the question of 6 years? On the first day or 6th year, your application would already have been approved and citizenship granted.

My take is, you have to wait for the full 5 years, before filing the application. Currently, it's 3 out of 4 years. There's a difference between 3 out of 4, and 4 out of 6.



metouk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-14 06:42:16

7. Will not be retroactive, i.e. will only apply to the residents that are landing after the Bill is passed.




Please clarify point no : 7 .

I am on PR now and will apply for citizenship by end of 2015 as I will complete 1095 days that time . So point no 7 will apply to those who may land after the bill is passed means suppose this bill gets approval in march 2014 so who ever land to canada after march 2014 have to stay 4 years out of 6 years but those who landed before march 2014 can apply under old rule ?????????????



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-14 17:58:04



Here is a little bit of information I will throw at you and see if it will make some sense.
There are a few EXECUTIVES of a few companies, who stay here in Canada exactly SIX months out of an year. They said that they will never be able to qualify for THREE out of 'ANY' FOUR years stay in Canada. So, they just come here stay and then leave Canada.
Now any FOUR out of SIX Years Throws their making it to the Citizenship impossible for these executives, which ever way you can try and swing it.
So, now you know that they have moved the goal posts a little extra distance and a few of the normal working citizens can surely fit in the FOUR years out of the SIX, some how. This gives a better chance to a few.

Now see if it will help YOU, who ever came into Canada and left in a hurry to the greener pastures, and are now back here in the saddle. (IN CANADA )

This law is in the works. So, who ever is currently in Canada and/or enters before the proposed amendments go through, can squeeze in and claim the THREE out of ANY FOUR years rule, that is currently in force. (And if you don't make it, see if you can use the any FOUR out of the SIX, may be it might give you a better chance... They surely would throw that in for you also. )

I think a few are fortunate.

FH.



elmer fudd   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-14 18:43:05

So, far all practical purposes the path to citizenship is going to be long drawn like the US citizenship.




How do these proposed changes effect PR applications in future?




desi28   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-14 18:43:14

Yes FH, thats what I meant. Even for PGP category, these new rules will be more stringent for those comes under that category. They have to live in Canada more than 6 months in any year, have to complete total 4 out of 6 years and file IT return every year.
For normal PR person who come here to settle, I dont think it is going to make much difference except one more year to apply citizenship but lesser time to process it.



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-02-14 19:59:24

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Originally posted by elmer fudd

So, far all practical purposes the path to citizenship is going to be long drawn like the US citizenship.




How do these proposed changes effect PR applications in future?


I know a couple of people who plan to apply for Canadian immigration. What would their prospects be like under the proposed changes?

1) 30 year old male-- 7+ years IT experience- currently contracting for a French bank in Saudi Arabia(since two years)---married---BTech comp sci--MTech Biotech---Tax free income.

2) 24 year old female---BTech electronics---MBA healthcare from US uni-----one plus year experience in India--currently undergoing post-MS practical training in US.


I cannot dissuade them from applying for Canadian immigration under the current job market conditions. However US is also getting difficult, especially for those with limited work experience(case 2) or those without US degrees(case 1).

Sorry if I am diverting from the topic.



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Off hand I am unable to comment about candidate 1) and Candidate 2). But the doors are once again opening up on the First of April 2014, There will be a minimum of 300 getting selected and the priority is to the first 300.

Now this is as regards the people wanting to enter into Canada and make a home here for the rest of their life. It does not stop them from retiring anywhere else in their later half of their life, if they plan well and do the preparations in advance. May be I can run an operation, at a cost, advising others how to prepare and where they shoould or could retire a LOT COMFORTABLY in life without losing all of the benefits that they acquire here during their working life. Well that comes later and there are others more qualified than me who do it for a living.

1) M.Tech - BIOTECK with TWO years? experience can surely enter here and a search for entry for that individual will be well worth it and do it as early as possible. You should remember that the IT Field is filled with a lot of surplus personnel here and should park it in the background. The banks do have internal transfers available and that is a second route.
BTech with sufficient experience can try to enter into Skilled Trades (Technician) Worker, but only if this field opens up.

2) For this candidate One years experience is just the bare minimum. But the fact that the background is from the USA AS REGARDS THE MBA is concerned, is a point in her favour and if the electronics bacground does have a considerable period of experience, from any location, will surely get her an entry in the Skilled Trades (Techicians) Category. If none, then build a little experience with suitable background, prior to applying or delay such an application to suit the entry requirements...

The lists are made available for anyone now. So, please explore the possibilities. All of this is trying to retrofit the applicant to the openings there. Also explore the Group called OACETT. I canot comment without proper analysis of their CV, that which you are also able to do knowing their life history.

Good Luck.


FH.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-11-01.asp
http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirates/migrating-to-canada-in-2014-click-for-details-2013-12-07-1.530468
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/new-fsw-points-criteria-announced-new-federal-skilled-trades-class-fstc-t115576.0.html



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