The Barbarians at the gate - ISIS and their rise


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san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-14 21:24:19

tungrus , I love you ! Do you love me ? I am a non muslim.



tungrus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-14 01:30:10

I love you brother... Your identity is immaterial...



ramar2005   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-14 06:48:50

Whether we like it or not the truth is during the 6th century A.D. when Islam was founded, the Prophet was set to have fought many battles against tribes who were "idol" worshippers. They were either made to convert to Islam or beheaded if they refused. Their temples were razed to ground and the idols broken to pieces and used as gravel for pave ment at Mecca. In addition, once in a while we would get information about archealogical finds of idols of Hindu Gods in places like Iran or Iraq. Some form of Hinduism must have thrived in the Middle East during the 6th Century. But because of the "love" these people have for History and more importantly for Hinduism, we may not fully know what really happened. But we can understand that with such a seed and the terrorism unleashed on India during the last 1000 years, we cannot expect anything different today.

But our secular intellectuals may differ.

As expected, today's Hindu newspaper has gone to town with front page headlines urging "inclusive schemes to stall radicalization of youth". That is for the youth who illegally cross the country's border, travel to Iraq without valid papers, get terrorist training and kill innocent civilians And cleverly knowing the newspaper's antecedents and bias it has blamed "the experts" for this "urge". Is it our government's job to wean fanatics away or is it the job of our BSF jawans with the weapons in their hand to deal with those who do illegal border crossings with dangerous intentions.


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san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-14 10:43:08

Quote:
Originally posted by tungrus

I love you brother... Your identity is immaterial...



I am glad ! I am sure you mean it as a person, I strongly believe people are basically born good. You are a good person. I am also born good but then I am a kafir as I do not believe in Allah and I am made to understand numerous times in my life that I 'll go to hell for that reason and with me will go those people who love me. You might be jeopardizing your path to heaven, brother, by sending me this message. Your religion do not allow that.

You see people are good, religion is not ! I mean any religion. Religion encourages group-ism and divides human, for ever. Its a farce that any religion wants other religion to thrive. Thus the tussle.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-14 18:06:49

I had expected that someone will point out that it is only a tiny minority that resorts to such heinous acts and that the religion does not permit it.

Our dear Tarek Fatah has emphasized this nicely in following video. Worth watching your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13vycldIjko



Gurram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-14 07:44:41

Quote:
Originally posted by san-hugo

Quote:
Originally posted by tungrus

I love you brother... Your identity is immaterial...



I am glad ! I am sure you mean it as a person, I strongly believe people are basically born good. You are a good person. I am also born good but then I am a kafir as I do not believe in Allah and I am made to understand numerous times in my life that I 'll go to hell for that reason and with me will go those people who love me. You might be jeopardizing your path to heaven, brother, by sending me this message. Your religion do not allow that.

You see people are good, religion is not ! I mean any religion. Religion encourages group-ism and divides human, for ever. Its a farce that any religion wants other religion to thrive. Thus the tussle.



Well said san-hugo. Religion divides human for ever. Hence, I don't like it.

Tangrus: You are right .... "hate breeds hate .... but you need to tell these things FIRST to those barbarians after denouncing their acts.



mrpandya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-14 09:23:12

Hi
I think Tungrus must watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sY5PKks38E


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