The Barbarians at the gate - ISIS and their rise


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ramar2005   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 01:14:07

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Originally posted by dsd

Dilshan's reply was not audible, and Shehzad went on to say, "Then be ready for the fire."



Dilshan's reply was ""I don't know and I don't care"". He was smiling and laughing as to how an international level cricket player can sound so idiotic.

Fortunately we did not let them inside the IPL. The money earned by these fanatics by match fixing and betting would have funded terrorism.


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Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 01:58:45

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In some religions, they say that if you do GOOD DEEDS you get rewarded and if you do BAD DEEDS you will be punished and there is no way of escaping these and if these dictates, where ever they were scribbled, can be found, became the authority and if everyone followed them faithfully, they stayed as a part of that society. Hence the faith.

This was the means by which they lumped everyone in the society and probably kept them in check too with the fear of the ALMIGHTY. Our world then was SMALL.

Hundreds of years ago when there was no mix up of the religions, except in the border towns, only a few came to know of the intricacies of these religions, their principles, the quirks there in and also the people who followed them faithfully. It took a long time to reach the far corners of the world and any bad behaviour, such as the one we currently see happening took a long time to travel. Not so any more. Our world has shrunk and it is now a GLOBAL VILLAGE.

Currently we are awe struck, due to our lack of knowledge of these religions and hence are paying a price because of our ignorance, and not knowing the other religions and its dictates. AND do you think that the heads of these religions will bring in amendments or admonish the actions of these perpetrators, who have walked away from them and become a warrior class? Does it take too much to sway a few young minds who feel that by joining these RADICALS, having a similar religious background will get them to their journeys end in life. Why do they jump at such an opportunity? For this we need to know everything about them and their religion plus their past and then some, which is their lineage.

There I was sitting in the warm sun sipping a MOHITO on a well deserved holiday and a photographer takes a video shot of me and posts with a commentary saying people in the west all work and get good salary and 30 days of vacation which they can spend anywhere in the world. All of this appears all over the TV Land which says DEMOCRACY is the way to go and there you get money for nothing and chicks for free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlPjxz4LGak
Yes they all want to experience Democracy and love to enjoy all of the benefits
that goes with it. They also found the way to achieve the ends was through protests and sacrifices, such as the one that happened in Libya, example Mohamed Bouazizi.* Everyone got the shooting irons and blazed their way to glory. And now we find that their actions are comparable to the ones we saw on the PLANET OF THE APES and now they don't know when to stop or how to go about it.

All of these guys are wandering aimlessly and in the desert and in the wilderness, brandishing the weapons and in their four wheelers to shoot and kill on sight or be killed. Is this their journey? Is it the end that they are seeking? If so it is a dog eat dog world. AND if it is, then these are the ones who have become the sacrificial lambs and the martyrs, but without a cause because they did not know when to stop, nor did they know a limit to which they should have gone or carried on the protests. They all will reach their ends, but will not sip the victory. They will pay a price for their barbarism. In today's world of technology, it is in an EXPRESS DELIVERY SYSTEM, and it comes on a drone, very very silently, lazer guided.. boomo... Tapela saaph.

IS LIFE AN ILLUSION!!! For them it was. (I am concluding that it will be)




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi



tungrus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 02:04:13

Another topic to spew venom against muslims. All because of one deviated group whose whereabouts are unknown...perhaps might be a creation of the empire itself...

Mujhe Ghaiz Mein Na De Dhamkiyan
Girein Lakh Baar Ye Bijliyan
Meri Sultanat Ye Aashiyaan
Meri Mamlekat Yehi Chaar Par



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 11:08:49

You are very welcome to join in and discuss Sir. Your opinions are welcome as well and please share what you think...

a.Do you as a practicing muslim support these violent religious actions ?

b. If not can you please point us what is the commonality in Islam which binds these multiple 'deviant' groups sprouting up all over the world working with one agenda of suppressing & killing non Muslims in a barbaric way

This topic is raging the world over - Boko Haram unleashed terror and abducted hundreds of girls because they were getting education . Same has been the fate in Pakistan /Afghanistan for Malala and other women .

In China Ulghurs go into a stabbing spree now and then ( They are Islamists)
Boston bombers were from a Russian muslim dominated region ( They are Islamists )
ISIS is ethnically cleansing 'infidels' ( They are Islamists )
Al Zahwari of Al Qaeeda fame has wowed to cleanse Indian subcontinent of infidels and let Islam reign supreme ... ( They are Islamists )
26 / 11 was unleashed by (They are Islamists)
9/11 was unleashed by ( They are Islamists)
Nairobi mall massacre was done by ( They are Islamists)

and so much so the world over .


And all this killing , violence and terror in the name of religion against non muslims .... Either convert to Islam or perish ..... Is this what Islam teaches ??

And why is Islam against idol worship or any other type of worship or any other religion ?? As much as anyone is free to practice Islam , others should be free to practice per their faith or not practice at all ... its a free world ...

Or does Islam not believe in a free world but in a world dominated by Islam and Sharia .... like some one on this forum once said ...'Wherever Muslims are in majority its an Islamic world and wher ever they are in a minority they ask for equal rights ....

And yet there are good well educated Muslims also who have brought their families to a progressive western world ....And that s why it is more surprising when such kids who have been born and brought up in a different world become radicalized making one wonder

-- Very Big Q --- Is there some thing in Islam which provokes this radicalism and creates terrorists ??


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 11:10:15

Quote:
Originally posted by tungrus

Another topic to spew venom against muslims. All because of one deviated group whose whereabouts are unknown...perhaps might be a creation of the empire itself...

Mujhe Ghaiz Mein Na De Dhamkiyan
Girein Lakh Baar Ye Bijliyan
Meri Sultanat Ye Aashiyaan
Meri Mamlekat Yehi Chaar Par




From Ghazni & Ghori to ISIS & Boko Haram , things are still the same !!


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tungrus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 11:35:53

And the killer of 2000 Indians becomes the Prime Minister of India...with absolute majority...If the nation is not polarized on communal lines then what...



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 12:24:10

A good attempt to digress the topic buy hey - no digressions here please start a new topic to discuss that ... I bet you will get enough responses.

BTW - you have not responded to 2 qs above ..Awaiting your answer ..... and your reasoning.


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