The Barbarians at the gate - ISIS and their rise


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Rajagopal   
Member since: May 11
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Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:00:57

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Originally posted by tungrus

And the killer of 2000 Indians becomes the Prime Minister of India...with absolute majority...If the nation is not polarized on communal lines then what...




It never ceases to amaze me that, Muslims ("the greatest of Allah's creations";) are fleeing to live in a Kuffar/Kaffir/non-believer's lands like Canada, India, USA, UK etc. why?

I will bet my last shiny dollar that you have chosen to live in one of the above unapproved and reviled "Kuffar lands" over Islamic Caliphate.



tungrus   
Member since: Jan 10
Posts: 89
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:02:44

I don't owe you any explanation. People who just spew hate at the drop of a hat. Look inside yourself, you'll find how much hate you have, you don't need answers from others.

As for me all I would say is this:

Jab Naam Tera Lijiyo Tab Chashm Bar Aave
Is Zindagi Ke Karne Ko Kaha Se Jigar Aave
Haamare Aaage Tera Jab Kisi Ne Naam Liya
Dil E Sitam Zada Ko Hamne Thaam Thaam Liya...



crish   
Member since: Oct 12
Posts: 70
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:17:09

This is just a discussion, and your not wanting to answer queries by Fido is not helping your cause.

What Fido pointed is something which comes to my mind as well, don't take it personal.



tungrus   
Member since: Jan 10
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:20:43

For one thing, I cannot speak even for my wife let alone speaking for a totally
unknown group(s). And for me, If I don't have that Love for the Creator what difference does it makes, heaven/hell, muslim/non-muslim.

Do Aalam Se Karti Hai Begaana Dil Ko
Ajab Cheez Hai Lazzat E Aashnaayi....



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:29:05

And yet you chose to speak for someone out of this discussion ( the Indian PM) .

Tungrus - please answer 3 things ( for your own self and not for anyone else )

a. Do you support or denounce the religious killings / abductions / violence perpetrated by Muslim groups such as ISIS , Boko Haram , Al Shabab etc. ?

b. Which part of Islam do you think gives rise to such religiously intolerant attitude and culture ?

c. How come kids of people who have moved here return to such radicalism ... Which part of the religion instigates them ?

I m trying to understand the root cause for such intolerance and hatred towards other religions as exhibited by the Islamists and taken to such extremities so as not care for their own lives leave apart that of others.


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tungrus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 13:45:34

Read man ...Read...I am a student just like anyone else. For one thing Hate breeds Hate...and you see world over...there is just some much hate...bombs, guns, even those getting killed don't know why they got killed...such insanity...

Show some Love...Mr Fido...If you show love...you will see people respond to love...I am just your mirror...Instead of asking answers from me...Dive deep inside yourself. You will get all the answers.

Khudi Mein Doob Ja Ghafil
Ye Sirr E Zindagani Hai



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-14 14:02:39

And still you do not answer the qs whereas you very willingly and without being asked denounced the Indian PM .

Your silence shows that you do not denounce the Islamist's actions ... In other words support them internally.

Hence the same to Nightmare's point as to why are Muslim states not denouncing the open unprovoked brutal acts being committed by Islamists .... which makes me ask a very important q -

Till now I assume that there are good Muslims who are not radicalized nor support fundamentalism ...Are there really or is it that they all support it either explicitly or implicitly ?

Now to a 2nd q - what is it in Islam which leads to the commonality of religious violence ?

There is an undeniable correlation - even if some prefer to call it as mis interpretation - how come so many people in different parts of the world make the same mis interpretation ?

Or is it that the religion was coined to fight for itself and to subdue other religions ?


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