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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
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Originally posted by adamthorat
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
I assuming its kind of cold call or some data entry job.
so put a add for : "Sales person needed with technical background on commission basis" - - Must ask for resume along with cover letter - only by email.
Remember DO NOT mention: work from home, or flexible time - it will raised flag to candidate mind.
when you get few resume setup interview and discuss personally - if candidate show up at interview means they are in need of job.
There are lot of people looking to work flexible hours but they are afraid of scams- u got to meet them in person.
So basically lie to people & tell them its not a work from home job, when it is a work from home job, as I don't think the company is giving them a cubicle in their office to work from.
So what's going to happen , when this person comes for interview & finds out its a work from home job, he is going to take off. So basically you have wasted your time & the persons time , who came for the interview.
Who said to lie ??? people need job - you tell them in interview face to face - if they see opportunity then its win win for both... if not they walk out - Remind you not every one is lucky to have good job - nothing wrong trying.
dont get too personal on this issue... its better then those scamming company at least OP meet them in person and explain.
i personally don't like Amay , ACN kind of business but that does not give me right to criticize them - if person like that kind of work and earn money nothing wrong on it.
ppl make leaving with collecting cans from garbage - Boss don't judge people's need, not everyone is lucky
" Who said to lie ? "..you are saying ..
But you are saying " DO NOT MENTION " that the job is from home, but it is from home. So basically you are saying HIDE THE TRUTH , which is not too far away from lying ..just another form of it.
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Bingo CD's - one more disappointed person
As i said earlier , i came back after long time and i see forum has gone down in quality big time.
I come here without emotions - thats the only way to survive on this forum
GeetaKhanna - do not worry about negative comments , you cant change ppls mentality
keep working on your plan, it will flourish one day
Ofcourse it will flourish one day for the recruting company, that's the whole point.
But not for the commission only person who will get peanuts for all his hardwork.
Is the commission split 50-50 ? I don't think so .
Do the commissioned only people, who successful manage to recruit someone get 1 months salary or 1 day salary of the person recruited ?
Basically its a cold calling telemarketing job ..one of the hardest & most hated jobs to do..both for the caller & receiver.
This type of stuff has been started by lot of house wives in India also now.
Lots of them..all they do is collect resumes of unemployed people & Fresher's ..and blindly mass email SPAM them to thousands of companies, just hoping it will stick somewhere. By luck or chance if one resume sticks somewhere..well and good 
They don't even bother matching the skills & companies.
The poor candidates waste their time & energy going from company to company & recruiter to recruiter & do some BS interviews, where nothing materialises at the end of it.
Both companies & candidates have NO clue that the recruiter's are doing this nonsense..randomly SPAMMING the resumes everywhere.
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Originally posted by adamthorat
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Bingo CD's - one more disappointed person
As i said earlier , i came back after long time and i see forum has gone down in quality big time.
I come here without emotions - thats the only way to survive on this forum
GeetaKhanna - do not worry about negative comments , you cant change ppls mentality
keep working on your plan, it will flourish one day
Ofcourse it will flourish one day for the recruting company, that's the whole point.
But not for the commission only person who will get peanuts for all his hardwork.
Is the commission split 50-50 ? I don't think so .
Do the commissioned only people, who successful manage to recruit someone get 1 months salary or 1 day salary of the person recruited ?
Basically its a cold calling telemarketing job ..one of the hardest & most hated jobs to do..both for the caller & receiver.
If there is a restaurant - the waiters /chefs do all the "hard" work and get a salary of say 3000/5000 respectively. But the owner makes 50,000 - do you think this is wrong?
Why should the recruiter be entitled to a 50:50 split? What would be the justification?
The employer would invest in the job site subscription which runs in thousands of dollars. He develops the business and relations with clients (there are thousands of recruiting companies - why would the client work with you?) - he invests his time and effort in training the recruiter. He sources the requirements.
Again - your definition is "hard" work - is different from mine. A person can spend 16 hours in a day - qualifying functional testers for a position requiring automation testers. This person will give 8 resumes and expect a placement. This is hard work which will never get paid and will feel cheated. This person will feel that the employer is actually making the placement and not telling her - to avoid paying her.
Another person works for 4 hours and gets 2 correct resumes and submits within the same day. This person does not work hard. This person is paid a commission. This person is satisfied.
I am not going to quote your message - as it becomes too long ....
Adamthorat,
That is why a pre-requisite for this position is a technical background to qualify and match the skis effectively.
There is effort - and there is wasted effort.
The wise would know the difference😊
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 06-02-15 03:20:13
Basically its a cold calling telemarketing job ..one of the hardest & most hated jobs to do..both for the caller & receiver.
It is not.
The receiver (usually a talented IT desi) will love your call and he will do everything to please you. He will be desparate.
I have seen cases in which the caller will call and ask what is Java, what is RDBMS, what is data mining and then say that I will send you the employer's requirements and if you are a match, call me back. The desi will call back. The recruiter will have no idea of the IT person's skill etc... They will send the resume to employer and in case it is a match, the employer will recruit.
The advantage to employer is this : He has a requirement which he want to fill with the least money and least headache. The recruiter will do everything for you for just 1 month salary comission which is a pittance for these people. They donot need to employ a HR for this.
Gradually what these recruiters will graduate into is that , if the employer has a 6 months / 1 year requirement, he will advertize as long term employment. He will ask the recruiter to supply at 10% comission of salary. So for 3-6 months, the recruiter will get 10% comission and after that , they will send you out.
It is not a cold calling telemarketing job as the receiver at the other end, will be longing for your call.
Je Suis Canada !
Murali
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Posted on: 06-02-15 03:37:58
How much "hard work" can be too much - when sitting at home on your computer and making calls? Isn't it better than spending on multiple modes of transport / Childcare / office attire - in extreme weather.
If a person was to work 168 hours in a Tim H/McD - how much does that person end up really making -'after deducting all the costs? Plus the neglecting of family that eventually comes in.
If by putting in 8 hours of diligent work (in a field where you have the background) - can earn you equivalent or more money - why should that be termed "exploitation"?
We need to see who is talking - what they are saying - what they are meaning to say - and then make an informed decision. Please refrain from measuring everything by the same yardstick.
There is no motivation for me or my friend - to make money off "gullible" people. We have found our successes in life.
Every businessman needs to find a model that makes the most money for him. It does not make him evil. He helps society / economy - when job / wealth creation is done.
Good argument by the OP but I donot buy that. I will tell you why.
The OP is not the first one to come up with this idea. It has been done by many people. IT is the preferred choice as the money is very easy.
Again, let me say that, I am not blaming the OP. Many people exploit (if you consider it as exploitation) and this is one such area. I say that if one is smart, he / she may do it directly.
These kind of things will be done by an IT person who sees the need in his dept. The Owner of this recruitment agency will have very good connections in IT. They will know what jobs are available. They will negoitate that they will send very good people for a hefty comission. After that they will get gullible people -I say gullible,- because the person may spend 200-300 hours of hard work and may not even get a comission. He/She has to search workopolis, find the resume, make a match, call them multiple times, forward to employer, employer may select, then again make the person attend interview, he has to be selected. he has to be employed for 3 months. The commission is paid and then you get $ 500, which may come once a year.
As soon as the OP is a women, you will get all sort of Sympathy posts. if I had said the same thing, saying that from India, I want to run a scheme like this, I would have been blasted left and right for exploiting the poor people.
I will say it again. Smart people will do it themselves. People who will flock to this are housewives desparate to suppliment their income / send money to India. They will have very poor english. Some may never receive any commission (even after a year) from where they start cursing.
I have a very good mind to write about these exploiters to the MP in Canada and ask him to raise this commission only businees in the parliment and to ban it.
Murali
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