Mandatory conversion of PIO card to OCI card?


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Rucking Fetard   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-04-15 08:52:43

CGI Toronto have changed the wordings on their website. Now they are saying that Application for OCI in lieu of PIO card will be voluntary.

http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0



kulb   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-04-15 16:29:45

Quote:
Originally posted by Rucking Fetard

CGI Toronto have changed the wordings on their website. Now they are saying that Application for OCI in lieu of PIO card will be voluntary.

http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0




I noticed that they got rid of the word "mandatory", and replaced it with "voluntary". However, this might just be a temporary reprieve. In the US, they are still expecting people to convert their PIO to OCI (http://www.in.ckgs.us/pio.shtml).

I personally don't have a problem converting my child's PIO to OCI, but then why do they need a gazillion other original documents to go with it, when they are the ones that issued the valid PIO card and it is supposed to be lifelong.

Their requirements to do this conversion are mind boggling:

I have to submit landing papers up to 3 generations.
I have to obtain a notarized marriage certificate with photograph (the marriage certificate from India is not sufficient as it is not attested by MEA).
They need both mine and my wife's cancelled Indian passports and our Canadian passports.
They need residence proof.
They need the kid's birth certificate.

So much non-sense just to get a valid document converted to another.



rajcanada   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-04-15 07:27:26

Quote:
Originally posted by kulb

Quote:
Originally posted by Rucking Fetard

CGI Toronto have changed the wordings on their website. Now they are saying that Application for OCI in lieu of PIO card will be voluntary.

http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0




I noticed that they got rid of the word "mandatory", and replaced it with "voluntary". However, this might just be a temporary reprieve. In the US, they are still expecting people to convert their PIO to OCI (http://www.in.ckgs.us/pio.shtml).

I personally don't have a problem converting my child's PIO to OCI, but then why do they need a gazillion other original documents to go with it, when they are the ones that issued the valid PIO card and it is supposed to be lifelong.

Their requirements to do this conversion are mind boggling:

I have to submit landing papers up to 3 generations.
I have to obtain a notarized marriage certificate with photograph (the marriage certificate from India is not sufficient as it is not attested by MEA).
They need both mine and my wife's cancelled Indian passports and our Canadian passports.
They need residence proof.
They need the kid's birth certificate.

So much non-sense just to get a valid document converted to another.



You will need to submit these documents every 5 years until your child attains the age of 20 since OCI for a child has to be renewed each time a new passport is issued. Also they are at liberty to ask for more documentation if this is not enough! No kidding!


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kulb   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-04-15 08:09:33

Quote:
Originally posted by rajcanada

Quote:
Originally posted by kulb

Quote:
Originally posted by Rucking Fetard

CGI Toronto have changed the wordings on their website. Now they are saying that Application for OCI in lieu of PIO card will be voluntary.

http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0




I noticed that they got rid of the word "mandatory", and replaced it with "voluntary". However, this might just be a temporary reprieve. In the US, they are still expecting people to convert their PIO to OCI (http://www.in.ckgs.us/pio.shtml).

I personally don't have a problem converting my child's PIO to OCI, but then why do they need a gazillion other original documents to go with it, when they are the ones that issued the valid PIO card and it is supposed to be lifelong.

Their requirements to do this conversion are mind boggling:

I have to submit landing papers up to 3 generations.
I have to obtain a notarized marriage certificate with photograph (the marriage certificate from India is not sufficient as it is not attested by MEA).
They need both mine and my wife's cancelled Indian passports and our Canadian passports.
They need residence proof.
They need the kid's birth certificate.

So much non-sense just to get a valid document converted to another.



You will need to submit these documents every 5 years until your child attains the age of 20 since OCI for a child has to be renewed each time a new passport is issued. Also they are at liberty to ask for more documentation if this is not enough! No kidding!





Red tape and bureaucracy at its best! Come and Make in India!!



mkannuri   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-04-15 00:07:34

I just come across this thread and still unsure whether i should convert my son's (10yrs) PIO to OCI.
I have taken the PIO card expecting to avoid the hassle of going to consulate until he turns 18.

Has any one converted their kids PIO lately?
Whats the admin fees that was mentioned in the fine prints?

Is it really worth changing instead of keeping as it is until its due by 18yrs ?


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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-04-15 07:35:57

Mkannuri:
May be this link will help you. It is for dummies !

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/04/15/change-from-pio-to-oci-what-to-know/

Murali


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adamthorat   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-04-15 08:18:24

Quote:
Originally posted by mkannuri

I just come across this thread and still unsure whether i should convert my son's (10yrs) PIO to OCI.
I have taken the PIO card expecting to avoid the hassle of going to consulate until he turns 18.

Has any one converted their kids PIO lately?
Whats the admin fees that was mentioned in the fine prints?

Is it really worth changing instead of keeping as it is until its due by 18yrs ?



Is as good as applying for an OCI all over again.

For a kid it won't make much of a difference as till the age of 20 , everytime they issue a NEW Canadian PP , you have to change the OCI anyways .

I hope these fools take $ 1,000 from us ONE TIME fee and give us a LIFETIME OCI which is really lifetime and like a PR card or something. If money is all they want to make , its better they take that in one shot, instead of all these excuses & drama & hassle to loot us more each time.




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