PIO to OCI Conversion


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chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 10:55:44

That indeed is good news!!

However since it is coming from Pramodji, it might be due to his usual charm, and so an exception!!;) We all might not get the same service.


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photohobbyst1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 11:45:16

Thanks Pramod for the update. Again, the process you went through was no where mentioned on CGI Toronto site. So you did not even go to BLS and instead went to consulate and hat that smooth sailing. Makes me wonder if it would be same then for children as well and I just take a hike over downtown to try it or if I go by what Chandresh has put from SFO Consulate, I don't even need to go to a consulate for it and just have that stamped next time we enter India.

Why can't they then also put the renewed passport number at the same time.

Oh typical Indian govt. process. Someone should draw a flow chart for these babus.



Pramod Chopra   
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Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 11:50:34

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Originally posted by photohobbyst1

Thanks Pramod for the update. Again, the process you went through was no where mentioned on CGI Toronto site. So you did not even go to BLS and instead went to consulate and hat that smooth sailing. Makes me wonder if it would be same then for children as well and I just take a hike over downtown to try it or if I go by what Chandresh has put from SFO Consulate, I don't even need to go to a consulate for it and just have that stamped next time we enter India.

Why can't they then also put the renewed passport number at the same time.

Oh typical Indian govt. process. Someone should draw a flow chart for these babus.




I would believe so for the valid PIO cards for the children as well, but I am not sure. However, I have also read and heard that there is no need to even go to CGI Toronto and a valid PIO card can be stamped at port of entry or departure in India as well.

I will check with my cousin who visited India couple of months ago to see if his PIO card was stamped with the life long stamp at the Airport in India and update here tomorrow.

Take care.


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meitsme   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 13:24:04

I had applied for PIO card for kids to just stay away from renewal process of OCI card.

How difficult to renew the OCI card when kids get new passport?

It seems there will be $149 fees for getting OCI card for PIO card holder. It is free till 31 March 2016.

My kids are 7 and 12 years old.

Should I go ahead and apply for OCI card now to take advantage of free OCI card?

What do you suggest?


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photohobbyst1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 13:47:08

Where did you hear or read about this $149 fee.

There is no renewal process of OCI card as far as I know.

PIO has this endorsement of new passport number that is supposedly to be done when you get a new passport, other than the one using which you had applied and got the PIO card.



adamthorat   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 14:55:50

Fekuji aka Modiji came to US ( NY ) and thought he is doing a favour to all the Gujjus there by getting rid of PIO and combining it with OCI. To make the Gujjus in NJ and NY happy he did this crap, he thought he will get some FDI from them for India :).

Fekuji is going with a begging bowl in hand as a tourist PM from country to country asking for FDI for India. If he recovers ALL the black money in India itself ( which he promised, but has done nothing ), no FDI will be needed for India.

What Fekuji did not realise is the unintended consequences of it ( scrapping PIO ) by creating a bureaucratic nightmare and red tape, with all this nonsense . No one really knows what's goin on , conflicting stories and vague i formation regarding it everywhere at the various embassies, media etc :D

Some say PIO is Not valid anymore, some say PIO has to be (mandatory) converted to OCI, some say conversion is voluntary, some say NO need your PIO is now just like your OCI ..ha ha :clap:

PIO was for 15 yrs originally, OCI was lifetime, so what happens if PIO is just like OCI, are both now lifetime ?



photohobbyst1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-15 15:54:00

Well explained adamthorat :)

Seeing how this promise of something from a leader has translated into confusing process leaves me with no confidence at all in other grand things like Digital India and Make in India. I am not saying I don't like what Modi has done, he is lot better than others.

But come on, how hard could this process would have been to implement and for him to monitor. His peeps who manage his facebook account just have to google on "PIO to OCI conversion" and just read the first few links such as this.

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/04/15/change-from-pio-to-oci-what-to-know/

Maybe he needs to have a Mann Ki Baat episode on this :)

I emailed CGI Toronto with specific query regarding this and the confusing and conflicting info, even giving link to their own site, yet I get a reply without thought with that same link being given back to me. I hand it to them for quickly replying, but not with anything usefull.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You may please visit in this regard Indian Consulate website link (http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0 ) and MHA link : http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/oci-brochure.pdf
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